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| [urlhttps://wiganwarriors.com/blog/2021/08/24/fans-forum-next-tuesday/[/url
Seems enough fan discontent can drive some action at least.
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| That will be uncomfortable for IFL and Rads
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| Quote ="[Gareth"That will be uncomfortable for IFL and Rads'"
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| Fair play to Rads & IL for putting this on, they could easily have not done this. You would imagine that certain announcements will take place prior to this event to alleviate some pressure on them.
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| Quote ="[Gareth"That will be uncomfortable for IFL and Rads'"
Unfortunately judging from other such events I'm anticipating more like the following:
- Short presentation, possibly confirmation that there will be a new coach in 2022/maybe even announcing that it's Peet. Some acknowledgement of our slump in form, mainly blamed on COVID disruption. Pointing out that we've continued to develop youngsters and tie some of them down to new contracts.
- A couple of questions that were literally just answered in the presentation.
- A Riversider waffling on about his great times watching the club/general praise for the club with no question at the end of it.
- Some sort of question about the relationship with Latics which will get the same response as usual (mutually beneficial, they can't kick us out and wouldn't want to).
- How many wheetabix can Clubb eat?
Job done without anyone laying a glove on them. Hope I'm wrong but empty vessels really do seem to make the loudest noises on these things which can eat up a lot of the available time.
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| Quote ="LewCharnock"Fair play to Rads & IL for putting this on, they could easily have not done this. You would imagine that certain announcements will take place prior to this event to alleviate some pressure on them.'"
The best piece of news to come out of the club in a long time.
Yes hopefully you right in that there will be some announcements preceding the forum. For me even if it’s some bad news mixed hopefully with good news at least the fans are being updated.
I’ve never been to one of these and unfortunately can’t make next week either but hopefully there will be some challenging questions together with open and honest responses. Ideally I’d like to see this on Wigan tv preferably unedited.
I’m not in the IL camp that says he can’t do anything wrong but I’m of the opinion that he generally gets a lot of things right and god only knows where we would be today if he hadn’t bought the club all those years ago.
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| Great and massive step in the right direction.
I just hope that it isn't wasted on moronic questions.
Now, everyone has a right to ask what they want, but... there will be a finite time and finite number of questions that can be asked. There's plenty that needs answering and I hope time is spent on topics like the stadium arrangements, coaching & culture Vs the fit of the home shirts, or what KR had for his tea.
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| My first thought was by ek, they’re brave. That was followed by intrigue as to what will be announced before or at the forum.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Unfortunately judging from other such events I'm anticipating more like the following:
- Short presentation, possibly confirmation that there will be a new coach in 2022/maybe even announcing that it's Peet. Some acknowledgement of our slump in form, mainly blamed on COVID disruption. Pointing out that we've continued to develop youngsters and tie some of them down to new contracts.
- A couple of questions that were literally just answered in the presentation.
- A Riversider waffling on about his great times watching the club/general praise for the club with no question at the end of it.
- Some sort of question about the relationship with Latics which will get the same response as usual (mutually beneficial, they can't kick us out and wouldn't want to).
- How many wheetabix can Clubb eat?
Job done without anyone laying a glove on them. Hope I'm wrong but empty vessels really do seem to make the loudest noises on these things which can eat up a lot of the available time.'"
I hope that you are wrong but from what I’ve read on here previously and your response it could be a possibility however, I genuinely believe that as a club we really are at a major crossroads in the history of the club and that he agenda/topics will reflect this.
I did think that they may invite some fans who they trust to ask pertinent questions to reduce the possibility of inane questioning. Not “plants” for any easy ride but people who they know will ask challenging questions. I’d like to think Jukes and NickyKiss would be great invitees at such an event. Passionate fans but with a strong pragmatic approach.
If I was IL I’d like to be really challenged and hear exactly what fans are thinking
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| Fair play for them for fronting up.
I’d like to know -
Stadium situation with the new owners
Why wasn’t George Williams re-signed, why did he not want to come back to Wigan
Is the full salary cap being spent
What is Danson’s role at the club
Financial position of the club
How long does IL think he’ll be active as the chairman
Do they both understand how difficult it has been being a Wigan fan the last few years?
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| What's been difficult about it?
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| Quote ="[Gareth"That will be uncomfortable for IFL and Rads'"
Depends on the questions full it full of yes men then it’s a fairly pointless exercise
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| Quote ="[Gareth"That will be uncomfortable for IFL and Rads'"
Almost certainly. But fair play for doing it, they must know it’s going to be anything but an easy ride.
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| Quote ="NSW"Fair play for them for fronting up.
I’d like to know -
Stadium situation with the new owners
Why wasn’t George Williams re-signed, why did he not want to come back to Wigan
Is the full salary cap being spent
What is Danson’s role at the club
Financial position of the club
How long does IL think he’ll be active as the chairman
Do they both understand how difficult it has been being a Wigan fan the last few years?'"
If he hasn’t been already, why hasn’t Adrian Lam been sacked
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| Quote ="hengirl"Depends on the questions full it full of yes men then it’s a fairly pointless exercise'"
Are you going to go?
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| Quote ="hengirl"Depends on the questions full it full of yes men then it’s a fairly pointless exercise'"
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You’re right there. If it’s like the last one it’ll be an old fella going on about wanting a reserved seat in the South Stand for half an hour.
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| Do the 120 get selected on their ability to ask "easy" questions, or do those who are prepared to ask challenging questions also in attendance?
If its the latter, then could someone please ask as to why George Williams was allowed to walk away from a legally binding agreement for free?
Could they also ask as to how long our current agreement to use the DW runs for, and can any amendment be made to the agreement before that date without the say so of both parties (ie can the owner increase the rent without our agreement)
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"Do the 120 get selected on their ability to ask "easy" questions, or do those who are prepared to ask challenging questions also in attendance?
If its the latter, then could someone please ask as to why George Williams was allowed to walk away from a legally binding agreement for free?
Could they also ask as to how long our current agreement to use the DW runs for, and can any amendment be made to the agreement before that date without the say so of both parties (ie can the owner increase the rent without our agreement)'"
It would probably be better to ask "What is the point in inserting these first refusals which are legally binding if we aren't going to hold players accountable and its just going to result in a bidding war."
What scenarios occur where they're actually worthwhile?
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"Do the 120 get selected on their ability to ask "easy" questions, or do those who are prepared to ask challenging questions also in attendance?
If its the latter, then could someone please ask as to why George Williams was allowed to walk away from a legally binding agreement for free?
Could they also ask as to how long our current agreement to use the DW runs for, and can any amendment be made to the agreement before that date without the say so of both parties (ie can the owner increase the rent without our agreement)'"
Who's saying they are being selected? As far as I can see it's the first come first served from 10 a.m. tomorrow morning.
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"Do the 120 get selected on their ability to ask "easy" questions, or do those who are prepared to ask challenging questions also in attendance?
If its the latter, then could someone please ask as to why George Williams was allowed to walk away from a legally binding agreement for free?'"
Already told us [urlhttps://wiganwarriors.com/blog/2021/06/18/club-statement-george-williams/[/url
Quote ="muttywhitedog"Could they also ask as to how long our current agreement to use the DW runs for, and can any amendment be made to the agreement before that date without the say so of both parties (ie can the owner increase the rent without our agreement)'"
Something like this gets asked every time they run one. The response is always along these lines - mutually beneficial for both clubs to work together. [urlhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wigantoday.net/sport/football/ian-lenagan-on-wigan-athletic-involvement-hopes-and-plans-for-future-3160135%3famp[/url
I get that you might not like those answers but there's no point asking a question IL has already made a recent statement about, he will just repeat the same thing and burn valuable time.
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"Could they also ask as to how long our current agreement to use the DW runs for, and can any amendment be made to the agreement before that date without the say so of both parties (ie can the owner increase the rent without our agreement)'"
The same as it was last time it was renewed but it's irrelevant really because without the council say so no owner can evict us. It's until about 2055 though I think.
They can however, charge us what they want and we can choose to walk away if we wish but the council probably won't be too happy about that and I very much doubt we would be building (or developing) any other stadium within the town.
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| I'd like to know:
- What financial state is the club in post COVID? Are we at a point where it is impacting our ability to spend the full cap and compete for top marquee players?
- Our best players routinely leave their contracts early for the NRL, and it now appears less certain that we will even have first choice when they do return to SL. Will the club do anything different going forward in this regard?
- Most top positions at the club are filled by Wiganers, even more so next season according to rumours. Are we really doing everything we can to recruit the most talented staff for each position, and is there a danger we are missing out on good people/ideas from outside the town?
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| I’m on holiday next week . Could somebody ask if pies will be cheaper (and warmer ) at The Reebok please ?
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| Quote ="Grimmy"I'd like to know:
- What financial state is the club in post COVID? Are we at a point where it is impacting our ability to spend the full cap and compete for top marquee players?
- Our best players routinely leave their contracts early for the NRL, and it now appears less certain that we will even have first choice when they do return to SL. Will the club do anything different going forward in this regard?
- Moat top positions at the club are filled by Wiganers, even more so next season according to rumours. Are we really doing everything we can to recruit the most talented staff for each position, and is there a danger we are missing out on good people/ideas from outside the town?'"
1st 2 good points, point 3 is similar to when wane was here as we lost him and bitcon both wiganers, does stink of jobs for the boys, I thought they were going away from it when they got rid of Paul Johnson but guess not
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