Im being serious. How many times did we get into saints 30 metre area? It cant of been much more than twice?

Flower, Clubb, Isa, Farrell and O'loughlin, im talking about you guys. You better get some fire up your ars

es before next week. 5 old men from the local nursing home could of put in a better performance than that.

Clubb, what the hell was you doing taking out Coote like that with the game well and truly lost? You should of been doing that in the first 10 minutes when he was allowed to play in slippers! If you're going to risk getting banned, at least make sure its on a play that could have an impact on the game.

This is not good enough. I want the whole pack on the weights non stop all week and eating nothing but large doner meat and chips every meal.

What’s more ridiculous; the title of the post or the last statement?

We could have had the new avengers as the pack and still wouldn’t have won tonight. Sometimes you just have to admit that the opposition were better.

Can you think of a game where we got into the opposition 20 less than tonight?

Whats wrong with the last statement? Are you happy with the strength and size of our forwards?

Admit the opposition were better? I think you can gather from my criticism that the opposition were obviously better.

They might of been better but its our job to be better than them not just roll over and say 'you're better than us'.

That performance was awful yes but worst ever? Come off it.

1) Defence; Our D was appalling. We didn’t even move off the defensive line most of the game and Saints just trundled it up making 10-15mtrs per tackle. No team will win a game with D like that. It was powderpuff and soft. There were times when I thought we were going to break out in a collective round of applause such was the lack of pressure we put on Saints, we just let them play, let them throw it around. It was ridiculous.

2) Attack; clueless, lethargic, no direction. Forwards weren’t good enough and barely hit the ball with any gusto to make yards. It took nearly 30mins for a forward to take a ball in in our own 20mtrs. The backs were doing the tough stuff. That’s forward turf. That’s the tough part of the pitch.

3) Clubb; acting the big I am hitting late off the ball a few times but where was that when we were defending? When Thompson or Walmsley were taking a ball in? It’s all well and good hitting a kicker off balance late but if you’re going to do that then you have to back it up with the tough stuff.

4) Tactics; if anyone can point them out go ahead. To me it seemed like a “whatever” type approach.

5) Willie Isa; poor game tonight. 3 tries went straight through him. It’s not all his fault, I hope that goes without saying but he can’t make those mistakes against St Helens and get away with it. I dare say he can’t against Salford either.

I posted a thread last week saying that we needed to improve or Saints would put us to the sword and regretfully I was right. If we play like that next week Salford will win. Simple as that. I didn’t expect to win tonight, nor do I expect to win the GF either but good god, we didn’t even put up a fight.

Thought this thread was going to be about Willie ISA

Off we go again, the hysterics have started.

Terrible performance, Saints too good. Focus on next week, use the disappointment and then put it to Saints in the GF.

I didnt say worst performance, i said worst FORWARD performance ever.

Can you think of a worse performance by a set of Wigan forwards?

I cant, i would love to see the total metres gained by each forward. Not only that, the amount of missed tackles by the forwards was shocking.

The better team won on the night. Yes admittedly we didn’t put up much of a fight and I suppose it’s that’s what hurts but hey ho as the song goes “ I get knocked down, but I get up again”

Purdey in a green cat suit, yes please

You're living in fantasy land if you think this set of forwards can 'put it to saints in the GF'.

Even last week it was only our backs that got us out of trouble. Mossop and Dudson were the best forwards on the field.

We have to hold our hands up and say Saints completely outclassed us. No doubt about it. We are all waiting for next season when we will have quality throughout but there are still 2 potential games to go in this one. Salford are on fire and will fancy their chances. Hopefully some wrongs from tonight (and last week) can be re-written for next week and take us through for another crack. I would fancy a GF against Saints on a neutral ground rather than Langtree thats for sure but we need to improve 10 fold in 2 weeks. Why the hell is French not playing. Whenever there is a game on TV he never seems to play or play for very long. Might be to our advantage as Steph Curry has obviously never seen him play or has any idea about Rugby League.

Apologies, I missed that. There have been some pretty woeful forward performances but for me that stand out worse is Wakey away 62-0. This was a woeful forward performance but let’s not kid ourselves into thinking it was just then. It was a whole team woeful performance.

By put it to, I mean put in a performance. What’s also important is that the pitch at OT, if we manage to get there, is much wider which suits our play.

I have seen some bad forward performances over the years and that was far from the worst. As others have said, we were simply outplayed on the night.

There is no team better from playing the wounded underdog card than Wigan. Take it out on Salford then take it out on Saints.

For a team that we’re, according to some, fighting relegation earlier this year; to then have the Edwards, Hamlin, Tautai fiasco, I’m just happy to still be 80 mins away from the Grand Final.

Spot on. I didn’t expect us to be anywhere near 2nd never mind to be one game away from Old Trafford. Re group, and go again next week.

To be honest id rather Salford have a crack at Saints than us go through that again. Do you really want 40 putting past us in a GF to them men? I disagree about the wide pitch at OT being an advantage to us. Their forwards will find even more gaps down the middle on a wide pitch. They too have the ability to play wide and go around us if we try to compress in the middle.

We can all agree that that was an awful forward performance tonight but we can’t write off what is a one off game in the Grand Final (provided we get there!). We have that big game, coming from behind to win experience which will work in our favour. I still think Saints will win, utterly regardless of who they play but I don’t believe it’ll be a 40+ pointer.

This. I really fear a worse night than tonight, on a bigger pitch in 2 weeks.

One assumes the OP missed Leeds 70-0 and Saints 75-0 in consecutive weeks. Wakey 62-0 more recently than that. Everything went wrong for us today and we were well beaten by a very good side. No where near these hysterical levels though.

Which stand were you in tonight?

That was a pathetic in wot and spineless display,saints are a long way ahead of Wigan and have been all season long

It looked a long night after the first set of the game when we made about 20m in six tackles. We just don’t have enough go forward. I said after Salford we would get hammered unless we found a way of making more but we couldn’t do it. I’m not sure if there is an answer but we’ll have to make some changes. Sarginson’s work rate will be valuable, Greenwood has his fault but can make ground so he’ll have to come in and we can’t keep wasting French on the subs bench. A couple of the senior lads really need to respond to that tonight.

I think more than a couple.
Clubb shouldn't feature anywhere near the first team again this season.
Was potentially always on the cards a proper good hiding but it still hurts.
Lam needs to grow a pair and decide why he signed French.
Hopefully we have got all of the shoite out of the way and we get back on the horse next week.
A worrying point for me is that Isa and Farrell have both been very much off their game for the last few weeks after being excellent form prior to that.
Sometimes a kick up the arris is a good thing"

Isa, Farrell and Hardaker for me and it couldn’t have come at a worse time. Sadly the forward options are thin on the ground. Greenwood must come in and Navarrete on his day can produce some decent displays when he switches on but it’s few and far between. It’s scraping the barrel really and the majority deserve another chance given their efforts of the past few months.