Another terrible perfomance.

No plays, no discipline.

total joke, we were shown last week how to beat Leeds and another dumb performance....

In a false position and it is laughable anyone thought we may make the top-4, on reflection of the last few weeks we've put in average performances against weaker sides and were even beaten by a poor warrington. We scraped by a really poor salford to get into the CC final.

We won't improve, that i can promise you. Shaun Wane is struggling to get consistency and we can only hope we can find a big game to make the CC final even remotely competitive otherwise Hull will be out of sight come half time.

The lack of direction at halfback is appalling. I can't sit through many more games watching Leuluai put his pudding bombs up. I'm getting to the point of having a total breakdown at a game of I see another floater.

It's the worst balanced halfback pairing I've ever seen turn out for Wigan. It's not the worst pairing by a stretch because both would be good players with the right partner but they're hurting each other. The strengths and weaknesses mirror each other and if it continues we're going nowhere.

Not one player in that team has a rugby brain. Briscoe had zero pressure put on him tonight - brainless. The sooner Leuluai joins the coaching team the better.

The less said about the one on one tackling the better - it would embarrass a pub team.

Said that about Briscoe at the game, an absolute farce the lack of pressure put on him tonight. We did have players like Clubb and Lockers kicking on their line though and Faz took a kick for touch at one point so at least they're keeping everyone involved!

We looked second best in everything we did, as a team and individually apart from the odd one. Hard to see us qualifying now.

I think moving Tomkins into the halves would greatly improve Wigan. Tommy L has proven that 'you should never go back' , the guy has been rubbish this season. Also, if God made a rugby league centre then he'd probably look like Anthony Gelling, unfortunately he's like a Ferrari with no engine.

Par for the course this season. Briscoe can't catch so we kick to Hall. Great idea. Gelling is so overrated and given such an easy ride by many Wigan fans it is untrue. And look at the subs again? Alarm clock not needed.

To not pepper Briscoe with a single spiral bomb was criminal. We are a great team when it comes to grinding out results at the business end but creatively we are dumb as f***

thing is, you never got into position to put a dangerous kick to Briscoe.
given your injury hit season a cup win would be brilliant.
no doubt changes are needed in key positions though.

I think most Wigan fans saw this coming. Not seen so few away supporters at Headingley (Catalans aside) for many years. Almost felt sorry for them, almost.

Defence was abysmal.
Forwards we're non-existent again, we kicked from our own 30m nearly every set.
The decision to play Farrell was an awful one in hindsight.
Leeds got some very lucky bounces of the ball. Nearly everything they tried came off.

Anyone that's watched us for the last 6 months saw it coming.

Would you want him on the training team I would not no idea has a player will have no idea coaching need a fresh set up, we have got the players.

Disappointing display but not a surprising result.
The camp seem intent on just playing for the CC and seem oblivious to discontent on the terraces and in the pubs. Hope they enjoy "their" weekend as they are watched by probably the lowest number of Wigan fans since WW2 at a Wembley final.
Wish we had 15 other players with the heart and brains of ST and Davies as the rest last night were average to rank. Davies is the best player at the club by a mile at the moment and ST thankfully is returning to somewhat near his best.
We need a significant injection of new blood in the squad and a whole new approach on the coaching front. Don't think for one second that this will happen so we get another season of grind, wrestle and d.

I couldnt believe what i was watching last night,just woeful,as mentioned the only player worth their pay was Sam and young Davies (what would wigan have done without him and marshall this season)

What about Bateman and Lockers.

I've been saying this since early June, when it was clear as daylight that the squad didn't have a regular performance in them. They've managed to scrape their way to Wembley, and that is the best they could hope for. No doubt the next two home games against Huddersfield & Salford will be turgid affairs, and the remaining 4 fixtures after the CC Final will be dead rubbers.

Changes need to be made off the field at the end of the season. Scraping into the top 8 isn't acceptable for this club.

In sport, things happen. Teams have bad seasons for various reasons. Leeds did it last year, Chelsea the year before but came back champions.
Wigan have been in the last 4 grans finals and won 2. We all know we'd have beat Saints in the 'Flower' final and we lost the one to Leeds because of a try from a knock on that wasn't given.
We are the current champions and world champions and are in the final of the challenge cup in 3 weeks! If that isn't good enough because we've not thrown the ball about enough go and watch Cas!
This season hasn't been great but in 35 years watching Wigan I've never known a season like it for injuries and whilst it is not an excuse for everything it certainly mitigates some issues for me.

At the start of the season I'd have taken WCC and CC and given the season we've had I'd say it's quite a successful year, although I'd rather have won the GF.

Im sure I'll be in a small minority but sweeping changes to coaching staff and players is not needed. A bit of luck is what we need, that's all and we'll be there or there abouts again next season. Bring on the abuse!

I thought Lockers was abysmal tbh. Lazy errors and a general lack of urgency. Even Bateman didn't seem to want to get too involved in defence although he was the only forward for us who carried the ball well.

Some were worst then others (Gelling, Leuluai, Sutton and Burgess being particularly poor for me) but I only though young Davies came out of the game with credit. He is an absolute workaholic and his attitude is fantastic. A few of the other playetsxgot shown up by him last night.

Funny cos it's true?

Your right you are in the small minority, the club needs freshening up from top to bottom. Forget if it's been a successful season or not, for the good of the club changes must be made on both playing front and coaching. At this moment in time we as a club are dying on our feet, in 40yrs of watching Wigan I've never seen as much discontent among the fans, the do gooders will still say we've won a wcc and are in the cc final but the truth is we are in the entertainment business and quite frankly we are far from being entertained. The chairman and chief exec are more concerned about the Wigan name rather than the product they are supplying, would McDonald's or KFC reduce the quality of product to promote their name, the answer is no they wouldn't because the product is what gave them their name in the first place.

Get a grip ffs. You make some valid points; there are definitely improvements needed in the playing ranks and some fresh ideas in the coaching, although Wane doesn't need replacing for that to happen nor should he be, but you ruin your argument with sh*te like "the club is dying on its feet". If our club is dying then there's no hope for anyone else in this sport.