Wigan to win Grand Final for me, beating Warrington again. But we'll miss out on Wemberly.

Top 4 - Wigan, Warrington, Hull and Leeds

Middle 4 - Saints, Cas, Catalans and Leigh

Bottom 4 - Huddersfield, Widnes, Salford and Wakefield

Hull KR to beat Wakefield in million pound game.

Challenge Cup - Warrington to beat Hull.

Man of Steel - John Bateman

Coach of the year - Anyone but Shaun Wane (probably Darryl Powell for getting Cas to a cup semi and 6th place)

Top 4 - Wire, Hull, Wigan, Saints
Middle - Cas, Leeds, Salford, Huddersfield
Bottom - Catalans, Leigh, Wakefield, Widnes

CC - Wire/Wigan
GF - Wigan/Wire

Top four-Warrington, Wigan, Hull, Saints.

Middles-Leeds, Leigh, Catalans, Cas.

Bottom four-Salford, Huddersfield, Wakey, Widnes.

GF Winners-Wire

CC Winners-Wigan

Man of Steel-George Williams

Cut n pasted off our board though I made this prior to Matty Smith's injury. Could hit saints badly.
1: Wigan
2: Saints
3: Wire
4: Leeds
5: Hull
6: Cas
7: Salford
8: Wakey Wildies

9: Catalans
10: Leigh
11: Hudds
12: Widnes

Play off
1: Wigan
2: Saints
3: Wire
4: Leeds

the 4 sides that will rejoin sl in 2018 will be
9: Catalans
10: Leigh
11: HKR
12: Widnes

GF: Wigan
Cup: Cas

Yes I had Saints top 4 until I heard that.

Grand Final - Wigan to beat Leeds

Top 4 - Leeds, Warrington, Wigan and Castleford

Middle 4 - Hull FC, Saints, Catalans and Leigh

Bottom 4 - Huddersfield, Widnes, Salford and Wakefield

Widnes to beat Hull KR in million pound game.

Challenge Cup - Castleford to beat Warrington

Man of Steel - John Bateman

Coach of the year - Daryl Powell

Grand Final - Wigan to beat Warrington

Top 4 - Wigan, Warrington, Hull, Castleford

Middle 4 - St Helens, Catalan, Leeds, Wakefield

Bottom 4 - Leigh, Salford, Huddersfield, Widnes

Hull KR to beat Widnes in Million pound game

Challenge Cup - Warrington to beat Castleford

Man of steel - John Bateman

Coach of the year - Daryl Powell

Interesting on the Saints board how optimistic they are about this season. Morgan and Douglas must be half a team all by themselves



Grand Final - Wigan beat Warrington

Top 4 - Wigan, Warrington, Castleford, Hull

Middle 4 - Saints, Leeds, Wakefield, Catalans

Bottom 4 - Leigh, Salford, Widnes, Huddersfield

Hull KR to beat Huddersfield in MPG

Challenge Cup, Pot luck but if they avoid each other. Wigan to beat Castleford

Man of Steel - Bateman has to be a shoe in if he behaves himself and stays relatively injury free- If our mate Phil Clarke talks him up again all season you can almost guarantee it.

Coach of the year - Powell

Edit :- Cas and Wakey could possibly do even do better for me. I think both have recruited well on top of what were already improving squads.

Top 4 - Wigan, Warrington, Hull, Castleford - Wigan to win League Leaders Sheild.

Middle 4 - St Helens, Leeds, Catalan, Leigh

Bottom 4 - Salford, Huddersfield, Wakefield, Widnes

Hull KR to beat Widnes in Million pound game

Challenge Cup - Wigan to beat St Helens

Grand Final - Warrington to beat Hull

Man of steel - John Bateman

Coach of the year - Shaun Wane

Two GF winners?

Well spotted.

Predictions:

Somebody to say we miss Stevo
Phil Clarke to have Wakefield as his pick for the Grand Final
Wolfs fans to claim it's their year
Shaun Wane to say "We've trained well all week"
Kev Brown to be touted as the next big thing for England
Cas will get fook all for Solomona and it'll be the RFL's fault
Marwan Koukash to tweet whilst pished, then apologise to Nigel
Saints to under-perform again, and KC keeps his job

Top 4 - Wigan, Warrington, Cas and Leeds

Middle 4 - Saints, ,Hull Catalans and Wakefield

Bottom 4 - Huddersfield, Widnes, Salford and Leigh

Hull KR to beat Widnes in million pound game.

Challenge Cup - Wigan to beat Leeds.

GF Winners - Wigan

Man of Steel - Bateman or G Williams

Coach of the year - Shaun Wane

Can't see anyone getting remotely close to you guys this year, we (Hull) will not be as lucky with injuries and Wigan have strengthened a team that despite injuries,was already too good for most last year . Warrington have lost their star half and replaced him with a good half, who will be injured a lot, Cas will look great but haven't the depth and Saints will struggle without Matty Smith, otherwise I'd have them top 4. If Catalans can gel, they may be the team to ruin that top 4 prediction.

1. Warrington
2. Wigan
3. Hull
4. St Helens
5. Leeds
6. Castleford
7. Catalan
8. Wakefield
9. Leigh
10. Huddersfield
11. Salford
12. Widnes

Challenge Cup - Wigan Beating Leeds

Grand Final - Warrington Beating Wigan

Man of Steel - Chris Hill

Top 4

Wigan
Warrington
Hull
Cas

Grand Final - Wigan to beat Hull

Challenge Cup - Wigan to beat Saints

You going for the win over Cronulla as well?

Haha no but I fancy the treble this season. In my opinion our squad is far superior to everyone's this season barring injuries.

I'm with you. IMO if we stay relatively injury free there's no one to touch us this year.

If we do stay injury free (ish) then we have no excuses to not be winning at least one of the major two trophies. Our backline is as good as anything as is the pack and we're littered with match winners like Burgess, Tomkins, Williams, Bateman etc.

I say that but the Red Vee review of us does say we look uninspiring on paper so maybe not! In all honesty I don't think I've been quite as excited by a Wigan side on paper as I am by this one in a long while. Fully fit our 17 looks superb to me but then again we don't have Tommy Lee or Dom Peyroux so I might be getting ahead of myself.

I think we'll win the title again. We have the most complete squad and seem to be able to pick it up when it matters.

We haven't even got a prolific winger like Jack Owens

There's some astonishing arrogance on this thread, even by Wigan fan's standards. You do have a great habit of setting yourselves up for a fall.

I think to say our squad is far superior smacks of over confidence and dare I say it arrogance.

We have a right to be confident after what the squad achieved last year. Looking at this season I think ourselves, Warrington, Leeds, St Helens and Hull are capeable of challenging for the GF, I'd also add Cas to that list as dark horses for the cup. On paper I think Warrington have the strongest team if not the strongest squad, it remains to be seen whether they can get over the final hurdle though.

As always, a lot will depend on injuries, particularly with the extra double game weekend when quite a few injuries seem to happen.

I'd go for (in no particular order) Wigan & Warrington top 2
St Helens, Leeds & Hull 3 to 5
Cas in 6th

After that I'm struggling though I think Widnes will struggle.

We do. I mean we all wrote our chances off of winning anything last year with a squad which was absolutely battered and we pulled the big one out the bag.

Massive fall!!

I was looking at Wires probable 17 the other day and I certainly wouldnt have it as the best in the league (certainly not when you consider Currie is out for a while). Their 1-5 isn't good enough to be able to consider them as having the best team on paper in the league and the halfbacks lack pace. The pack is clearly very good but it will have to be to create enough space for that backline imo.

'On Paper' I'd say Wigan and Hull are pretty close and then there's a slight gap to Warrington.