We have become a team who is not willing to earn the right to score tries. Our spine is no longer willing to manage the game and take on the line.

Tomkins, Smith, Wiliams, Powell and whoever comes on to replace them should they be out point blank refuse to challenge the middles creating space on the edges. Even with 12 and 11 we were totally unable to create an overlap. When we do go wide nobody straightens the line, we drift towards touch allowing the opposition defence to slide across without having to work.

All in all a total embarrassment. I fully appreciate some will disagree but tonight more than ever do I feel comfortable with my decision not to attend a Wigan match whilst ever Wane remains coach.

Brainless coach = brainless team. 2 weeks off and nothing new on attack - just a fortnight of wrestling and weights I presume. How much longer will Lenagan put up with these performances? 17 players and not one of then can pass a ball...

Atrocious performance.

Moronic decision not to take the point at the end.

Pathetic all round, if that performance was a one off I could just about let it slip but that is how we have attacked for the majority of the season. Absolutely clueless, Just passing sideways but going nowhere or just barging it up with one man rugby hoping to get over the line. the 2 chances to take the 2 was absolutley criminal, for us to think we would score having attacked like that for 78 minutes. No disrespect to Widnes but a side with 11 players should not be keeping us out like they did.

the attacking plays that Mcguire brough to us have well and truly been coached out of the team to the point where we now can't even finish off a 3 on 1 overlap....

Wane needs to go, nothing else need be said.

Well said, if Wane stays we will only get worse.

If your team stopped trying to milk penalties off every tackle and actually tried to play rugby you'd do better. I actually feel sorry for anyone who has paid to watch that bilge week in, week out. I can't believe your owner puts up with it

Only positive about tonight is it wasn't cold........

Ticket has gone in the bin no Cats at home or renewal for me, defeat i can take boring rugby i cannot.

Congratulations to Widnes a great effort by 1 - 15

What a complete and utter yawn fest

Same here enough is enough, no doubt the Wane appreciation society will be on any minute telling us how wrong we are.

Was downright disrespectful to the leading opposition not to take the two at the end. Was the most Wane thing I've ever seen.

Have your gates dropped? Know it's Thursday but looked quiet. Also thanks to your fans for showing up for the FC at Wembley last week, was sat near a few Wiganers who were jumping up and down with the rest of us at the end

About 11,500 on tonight I think they said, which is about average

Absolutely no chance. The club have been inflating the crowds all season (counting season tickets sold?). At best 8,500 on there tonight.

We've gone from actual 15-16k average crowds to around half that, worrying times for Mr. Lenagan.

Don't shoot the messenger

No, no I'm not!

No way can anybody defend that garbage, absolutely gutted the match was moved to Thursday, if it had been on Friday I'd have fortunately been at work.

deffo 11500 on i can judge that crowd to 500 every game, no point taking the two we gain nothing apart from sending some fans home slightly happier, agree though absolute rubbish attack if i here anybody knock smith again i will knock them out, he would have pulled us through that game for sure.

I'm happy. The Series Link hasn't worked on my Tivo Box.

Laugh or cry time. Laugh because with all of our modern technology we cannot see a try given on a blatant forward pass and another when the offside man collected the ball but was so wide that he did not appear on the only replay that could have proved the point. I was in line with both an they should have been pretty easy to spot. Cry because we were so bad that we did not deserve to be in with a chance because we had no clue. Sam looked shot and I could not work out who played in the pivot roles but it looked for much of the game that TT had taken the stand off position as the player who was feeding our runners. It is dispiriting to see Shorrocks trying to force something when the more senior players must step up.
I did hear a very interesting explanation from a Widnes fan as to why Sam should have been sent off for some heinous infringement but six high tackles in quick succession was fine. I would have liked to say something to counter that but at the end of the day we did not win and they get to gloat.

Turgid rugby. I don't think we are the worst Wigan team I've seen, but definitely the most boring. Can't comprehend what they must do at training in terms of attack.

Widnes were tenacious and played with heaps of effort and desire. They deserved the win. I'm sorry to say that wigans arrogance is costing them. I'm not just talking about not taking the two points either. Wanes reactions are rubbing off on the players- Whenever Wigan win he's rightly full of praise for the players, however whenever Wigan lose Wanes reaction in front of the cameras is cringeworthy. There's always some excuse-illness, injury, disruption, officials....... If he just said, the other team played better than us -end of, then perhaps the Wigan team wouldn't believe it's not their fault....

I think it's time for Wigan to "freshen up" on the coaching front. Give the players some interest and challenge back.
The players look stale and they do not look to be enjoying their rugby....

Thanks for another of your balanced reviews shaun. Do you feel under pressure?

I actually fell asleep on the sofa watching the game last night......

I think Wane is doing a great job. Yes, the attack is robotic and ultra predictable I know, but whilst all the other teams can read it with no prob, even with 11 men, he is working on his new attack system which will develop the excellent wrestle they now practise to wrestle their way all the way down the pitch. Now dint ask me how it'll work but they practise it non stop and soon all will be revealed. It's not about power and speed anymore. Predictability, slow ruck, wrestlemania and just not respecting any opposition is the way forward. Wigan will come through , Widnes guts , skill and speed and self belief will mean nothing. Apart from 2 points and winning pay last night. Don't change a thing Wigan.....we're loving it.

Should have taken the draw. If Hull lose against Saints and then Wigan beat Hull next week then Wigan would have gone top. Silly not to take the two. A point could have negated the points difference. Now we are still 3 points off top.