https://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2016-08-30-same-19

https://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2016-08-30-same-19

Probably makes sense not to risk bringing Clubb and Lockers back maybe too early with a lot of "bigger" (no disrespect to Widnes intended) games ahead...

Micky Mac confirmed out for the remainder of the season: Quote Head Coach Shaun Wane has opted to stick with the same squad that beat St Helens in their last outing almost two weeks ago. Tony Clubb (neck) and Sean O’Loughlin (hamstring) remain sidelined with Dom Manfredi (knee), Michael McIlorum (ankle) and Joel Tomkins (knee) all out for the season.'" www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2016-08-30-same-19

Micky Mac confirmed out for the remainder of the season: Quote Head Coach Shaun Wane has opted to stick with the same squad that beat St Helens in their last outing almost two weeks ago. Tony Clubb (neck) and Sean O’Loughlin (hamstring) remain sidelined with Dom Manfredi (knee), Michael McIlorum (ankle) and Joel Tomkins (knee) all out for the season.'" www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2016-08-30-same-19

Wonder if Wane will change anything for this game or give everyone another chance? It's a shame we don't have another decent centre to put Sarginson under pressure, he's been playing like someone who knows they're leaving at the end of the season for the last 3-4 months.

And Phil Clarke has him in his England team!

I think the opposite. I think Sarg knows he hasn't has a good season and is trying too hard and forcing things rather than playing naturally. Easier said than done but if he relaxed a bit he'd do better.

Well, what's going to happen tonight?
Are we going to continue in the enthusiastic vein that saw us humble the stains, or are we going return to previous and dish up the usual bore-fest?

The team really needs to kick on from two weeks ago and provide us with some entertaining rugby and get into the habit of doing so now we're at the business end, but somehow I feel in my bones another disappointment coming on, and from the apparent lack of enthusiasm here, I suspect that I'm not the only one.

I won't be going, as can't get there in time (never can on a Thursday), so will have to suffer the additional 'nails on blackboard' drivel dished up by Sky's Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber

The stats bear this out as well, he's 1st for carries (by a long way) 2nd for meters gained & try assists, 3rd for tackle busts & offloads but he's also 1st for errors (by a long LONG way) and gives away too many penalties.
Don't think he can be faulted for his effort, not sure the quality has always been there.

Awful in attack here. At times a two man advantage and we're playing one out rugby. I'm not sure the players have a rugby brain between them.

F*ckng hell fire that was awful. I've defended them all year but I've had enough, something needs to change after that.

What in the actual f*ck did I just watch?

Thought it was good

You getting beat by 11 players

That could have been an easy win with the easy kickable penalties we dismissed through our pig headedness. I actually called this result with twenty minutes to go.

Shocking. Sums up our season. Things need to change bigtime.

It really was as bad as that bad. These clueless performances are far too common for there not to be issues in either what Wane is coaching, or the fact the players just don't get it. The fact we are, or have been pushing for top spot only shows just how bad the rest of the league is also. Any other season we are not even close.

Whenever he refs Wigan,Phil should just remove the Ham from his name.

The ref trying his hardest to give you the points

Mental game. How you managed to not win with a 20-9 penalty count in your favour and Widnes down to 11 men at one point I will never understand.

If the fixtures go as you imagine they will we'll end up playing Catalan for fourth spot in the last game.

A draw would have sealed a semi-final. The stupidity is just mind-blowing.

What a load of garbage that was, through away 6 points tonight 3 kick able penalties .

You missed Matty Smith

You'll be much better when sam tomkins and liam farrell are back from their injuries

It was an odd game, I'm sure a few "neutrals" would have enjoyed the result.

Widnes came with a game plan and stuck to it. Feel free to call Bentham what you will but he had little choice tonight, Widnes deserved to be on the end of that penalty count. A significant number were given for the same thing, the second effort preventing a player from getting up by knocking them down again. Betts in his interview talked about Widnes throwing it away rather than complaining about the ref.

I've no problem with not going for goal with those penalties at the end, if the players at the time thought they could score. It didn't work out however we were totally dominant in the second half and I understand their decision. Taking the 2 points and a draw would have been a much easier option. I thought we should have gone for the 2 with about 20 to go.

I have to applaud Widnes' defence particularly the last ditch stuff. Thompson fully deserved the MOM with a few outstanding efforts.

Overall our first half was poor, second as I said earlier was totally dominant which showed with the number of penalties Widnes felt they had to concede and Brown at the panel with Wells was right when he said they wanted it more.

The thing that really annoys me about this Wigan team is it is far to easy to put us off our game. Time and time again we lack composure. Other teams know this and always come with a game plan to do it. I don't blame them for that and would do the same if I were them. Whether this comes from Wane or not I don't know but we have to find a way to not get rattled and frustrated, be more composed and play the way I know we are capable of. Without taking anything away from Widnes' effort which was very good If we had done that tonight I believe we would have won comfortably.

We had approx ten kickable penalty chances in that second half and all were turned down. The signal from the sidelines was to run with the ball........criminal.

once widnes saw we didn't want a draw they had nothing to lose offside, niggling, holding down all were on the agenda we had no chance of scoring.