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| He has broken Kirk Dixons jaw.
I like his aggression at times but he needs to learn to control it a lot better than he did today, he was running round like a headless chicken and should've been sent off after the Dixon high tackle.
Will get a 3 game + ban and rightly deserved IMO, hopefully he will learn from this mistake.
Time for Tomkins to step up and prove his worth.
Hope Dixon awakes a full and speedy recovery too.
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| Quote ="FIOS"He has broken Kirk Dixons jaw.
I like his aggression at times but he needs to learn to control it a lot better than he did today, he was running round like a headless chicken and should've been sent off after the Dixon high tackle.
Will get a 3 game + ban and rightly deserved IMO, hopefully he will learn from this mistake.
Time for Tomkins to step up and prove his worth.
Hope Dixon awakes a full and speedy recovery too.'"
I was stood in the corner at the Wigan end so must have been 70 yards (at least) away from the tackle. I presume it was the one straight after the kick off for which he got penalised. To me it looked as though he fell into the tackle, a bit like Solialas v Wire.
However it will no doubt be reviewed and should he be found to be guilty of an illegal/dangerous/deliberate tackle he should get a long suspension.
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| Commentary seemed to suggest it was Ben Flower... sure it was McIlorum?
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| Ben flower was sin binned in the second half for the cannon ball tackle, the McIlorum incident was in the first half.
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| It was from a kick off, Dixon came forward jumped in the air caught the ball and McIlorum smashed him as he landed , I was in line with it but it all happened so fast I don't know where the initial contact was , Ref gave Cas a penalty for high tackle but he never gave the signal for putting it on report.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"However it will no doubt be reviewed and should he be found to be guilty of an illegal/dangerous/deliberate tackle he should get a long suspension.'"
Like Bowen and Pettybourne did?
Don`t be silly he will get a slap on the wrist and told to work on his tackling technique.
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| I was in direct line with the tackle but was unable to see where the initial impact was made, my initial thought was he fell into the tackle. MM had a poor game, but he was not on his own. Was he captain? Can he handle this roll was my train of thought throughout the game, we did look rudderless and missing a leader in the middle.
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| Quote ="chapylad"Like Bowen and Pettybourne did?
Don`t be silly he will get a slap on the wrist and told to work on his tackling technique.
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Like Westwoods one game ban from last years grand final?
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| Quote ="Lippy"I was in direct line with the tackle but was unable to see where the initial impact was made, my initial thought was he fell into the tackle. MM had a poor game, but he was not on his own. [uWas he captain[/u? Can he handle this roll was my train of thought throughout the game, we did look rudderless and missing a leader in the middle.'"
He led them out in the first half, but Smith led them out in the second half as Logan was on at the time.
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| why wasn't Faz captain? he seems more of an inspirer to me
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"why wasn't Faz captain? he seems more of an inspirer to me'"
Long term he may well take over from Lockers at both LF and captain. He is seen as quiet, which Lockers used to be accused of too.
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| Not a word gets said by anyone behind the sticks after we concede a try. Even Lockers is more of a lead by example type captain. We don't have anyone who'll read the riot act after we concede. Tomkins used to do it. We are severely lacking senior players, and it's something that quite a few fans were concerned of in pre season, particularly when Hansen left.
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| was gonna say, SoL isn't a big talker on the field but he's well respected. MM to me seems to be too hot-headed to look fto as an influence.
In 2nd half when we scored Matty Smith was the vocal one behind the posts. MM stood out the back of the huddle nearest the fans and got a lot of stick
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"Not a word gets said by anyone behind the sticks after we concede a try. Even Lockers is more of a lead by example type captain. We don't have anyone who'll read the riot act after we concede. Tomkins used to do it. We are severely lacking senior players, and it's something that quite a few fans were concerned of in pre season, particularly when Hansen left.'"
I would argue that this is what Bowen, with all of his experience, should be providing. At full back he should be organising the defence in front of him. He gives the impression of someone who concentrates only on his own performance (which is average at best). And it's not good enough to suggest that he's settling in, because Sam has never shut up over at NZW.
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| Quote ="Lippy"Like Westwoods one game ban from last years grand final?'"
Absolutely.
And Collis`s ban for what looked like a pretty tame challenge on Gale.
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| Josh Charnley looked a bit cream crackered for you yesterday. Is he carrying an injury of some sort as I thought that he'd have been more involved than he was ?
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Josh Charnley looked a bit cream crackered for you yesterday. Is he carrying an injury of some sort as I thought that he'd have been more involved than he was ?'"
He'd have been a lot more involved if the guy playing centre had passed the ball occasionally.
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"I would argue that this is what Bowen, with all of his experience, should be providing. At full back he should be organising the defence in front of him. He gives the impression of someone who concentrates only on his own performance (which is average at best). And it's not good enough to suggest that he's settling in, because Sam has never shut up over at NZW.'"
I'd recommend watching the game back when it comes out on Wigan TV. Bowen is often shouting and pointing players into place, particularly close to our try line
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| Quote ="Grimmy"I'd recommend watching the game back when it comes out on Wigan TV. Bowen is often shouting and pointing players into place, particularly close to our try line'"
Watching it once was enough mate.
I'll take your word on that. Maybe I've been harsh on him.
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| Grade C charge for McIlorum with the option of an EGP.
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| Quote ="CM Punk"Grade C charge for McIlorum with the option of an EGP.'"
Great!! That's all we need with Warrington coming up! I'd bet my life he gets 2 games.
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"Great!! That's all we need with Warrington coming up! I'd bet my life he gets 2 games.'"
Who we are playing in the next few weeks is irrelevant. He broke Dixon's jaw so it is clear where he hit him and that it was hardly a light tap he gave him, he should get as lengthy a ban as can be given. I doubt Dixon will be back playing in two weeks time.
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| I'm quite happy with Logan doing 80 minutes.
The game at Wire last year he did 80 and was excellent. The game v Hull FC at our place he did 80, again was very good and I think made 48 tackles or so.
He isn't as aggresive as Micky but doesn't give pens away for foul play.
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| I have to say, I'm highly impressed with your guys reaction to MM's shot on Dixon - I expect fans to naturally defend their own or brush it under the carpet.
You guys seem universally aware that it was a dirty cheap shot that there is no place for in our game.
Lotta respect for that attitude.
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| Quote ="wiganermike"Who we are playing in the next few weeks is irrelevant. He broke Dixon's jaw so it is clear where he hit him and that it was hardly a light tap he gave him, he should get as lengthy a ban as can be given. I doubt Dixon will be back playing in two weeks time.'"
And at no point did I try to say otherwise! Wind your neck in pal. My point was that he's gonna get banned, and with team performances of late not being great, we could do with him (one of our best players) playing against one of our rivals? What's your problem with that?
I hope Dixon makes a speedy recovery and I would never want any player to suffer injury. If the offence is proven, the ban is the right thing!
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