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| Seems a few stories are emerging regarding Sean long. Is it out in the open yet and can it be talked about on here in a constructive manor?
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| Whatever your thoughts about Sean Long, (I actually like the lad and I think he was a cracking half back), he deserves enormous credit for having the guts to talk about his depression in such an open manner. Mental health issues affect millions of people and only by people like Longy talking about, will the barriers be broken down.
I really commend him and wish him a speedy and full recovery!
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| trying to kill yourself is a sign of weakness imo...the easy way out instead of tackling your problems head on, and most of his problems are self inflicted.
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"trying to kill yourself is a sign of weakness imo...the easy way out instead of tackling your problems head on, and most of his problems are self inflicted.'"
Ooh, look at the big hardman! An expert on depression then are you? I wish Longy all the best.
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"trying to kill yourself is a sign of weakness imo...the easy way out instead of tackling your problems head on, and most of his problems are self inflicted.'"
If people here were to tell you what they think of your view, they would all be banned...!!!
I hope he deals with his demons...
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Quote ="wigan pie man"trying to kill yourself is a sign of weakness imo...the easy way out instead of tackling your problems head on, and most of his problems are self inflicted.'"
Wow, just, wow.
www.mind.org.uk/ go get educated you absolute turd of a human.
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Wow, just, wow.
www.mind.org.uk/ go get educated you absolute turd of a human.
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| I can see your reply was at 1:55am. That's your only possible excuse.
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"trying to kill yourself is a sign of weakness imo...the easy way out instead of tackling your problems head on, and most of his problems are self inflicted.'"
OMG.......!!!!!!!
some pond is missing it's amoeba...............
It's attitudes like yours that result in tragedies like Terry Newton...God rest his soul......
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"OMG.......!!!!!!!
some pond is missing it's amoeba...............
It's attitudes like yours that result in tragedies like Terry Newton...God rest his soul......'"
Exactly. So many people suffer from anxiety and depression. Its easier for people to admit they are Gay or Lesbian today than to say they have depression. Its as its a dirty word when all most need is help and for people like the 1 cell organism you replied to to be educated to understand how difficult it is for the person who has depression and their families.
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"trying to kill yourself is a sign of weakness imo...the easy way out instead of tackling your problems head on, and most of his problems are self inflicted.'"
This has to be an alcohol induced post, that's the only reason someone would post such drivel, unless they have their own serious issues.
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| Just to get this back on topic...I'm glad this didn't end in tragedy, as it seems it could very well have done so. There were rumours on here around the time that Sean had been sent to 'Rehab' obviously, it seems, there was something far more serious.
Depression is a real issue, a real illness that not everyone recovers from. Our very own Bilko has spoke candidly on Twitter about his own struggles with it. More people need to know it's okay to talk about it, and to not suffer in silence.
I have never liked Sean [But then, i have never met the lad but he is a Wiganer, a member of the RL family and probably the most important - a father and husband. I hope he defeats his demons and becomes a better person for it.
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| Quote ="ChrisA"This has to be an alcohol induced post, that's the only reason someone would post such drivel, unless they have their own serious issues.'"
I hope so. Hopefully he will apologise and we can all move on.
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"trying to kill yourself is a sign of weakness imo...the easy way out instead of tackling your problems head on, and most of his problems are self inflicted.'"
You should be banned for this.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"You should be banned for this.'"
No he shouldn't.
No matter how outdated and unpalatable his opinion may be, he hasn't broken the AUP. Back on topic please.
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| I've just deleted some posts that added nothing apart from personal insults. If you can't make a point without insulting someone expect a ban.
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"trying to kill yourself is a sign of weakness imo...the easy way out instead of tackling your problems head on, and most of his problems are self inflicted.'"
Do you want to come back on and have another alternative response, he's gone through a lot of problems of which some of them are self inflicted, most of them he dealt with.
In this scenario its an illness effecting people in different ways, most people have a neutral sympothetic response.
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| Saying that he's never felt better and that he's glad he's "out the other side" so soon after this is a bit of a worry. Hope he has the right people around him and treatment for the long term.
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| I'n my long career I've attended too many who have gone and taken the final decision thet Sean Long talks about, it's just absolutely devastating, for all. Depression is in my opinion a bi-product of modern living and affects all, no matter how "tough" or jocular they may appear to the public.
Lets face it, to Wigan fans, Sean when playing was a pantomine villain , and he tormented us........alot. But that's where it ends. So please Wigan Pie Man, be a mensch
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"No he shouldn't.
No matter how outdated and unpalatable his opinion may be, he hasn't broken the AUP. Back on topic please.'"
You're the sheriff of this board Andy, but i'd have thrown this at them
Quote 2.1. Comments that are meant to upset or cause distress to other members are prohibited on this site.
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| Rugby league needs to get behind ex players and players etc in need of help. This is not football. We should be proud of our game and 'community spirit.'
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"You're the sheriff of this board Andy, but i'd have thrown this at them
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I don't think it was meant that way, it's just a seriously brainless, out of touch view. Every village has one. Back on topic, I hope Long gets all the help he needs. It seems to be becoming a bigger issue all the time, particular amongst younger men
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| Quote ="Grimmy"I don't think it was meant that way, it's just a seriously brainless, out of touch view. Every village has one. Back on topic, I hope Long gets all the help he needs. It seems to be becoming a bigger issue all the time, particular amongst younger men'"
Problem in RL is the players dont make enough money in their careers to retire on. Prem Footballers can retire with millions in the bank and never work again, RL players are thrown to a job market they've no experience of and the change can be shocking, akin to soldiers leaving the army.
We need greater support structures in place for them. Where has mr Wilkin and Mr Peacocks great union been in all this?
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"You're the sheriff of this board Andy, but i'd have thrown this at them
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I know what you mean, but all he's done is highlight the large number of people who have the "pull yourself together" attitude to these kind of things. Twitter and Faceache are full of grief/outrage junkies without us letting it being a banning offence on here.
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| I think it was brave of him to come out and speak about it really does take a lot of guts
The problem with longy is it's not just recent he's had demands so can't really use this has an excuse i get what he's saying about his playing career but he's had jobs at Salford,Wigan and London to grow as a coach and he's screwed everyone of them opportunitys up
You can't walk into a job like that and expect to be the top dog look at Wane he was with our youth for years and learned the trade there is a difference between playing and coaching i do think he could make a great coach someday but you have got to work for it and he needs to grow up and knock all the silly things he does on the head
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| Quote ="king warrior"I think it was brave of him to come out and speak about it really does take a lot of guts
The problem with longy is it's not just recent he's had demands so can't really use this has an excuse i get what he's saying about his playing career but he's had jobs at Salford,Wigan and London to grow as a coach and he's screwed everyone of them opportunitys up
You can't walk into a job like that and expect to be the top dog look at Wane he was with our youth for years and learned the trade there is a difference between playing and coaching i do think he could make a great coach someday but you have got to work for it and he needs to grow up and knock all the silly things he does on the head'"
I think we may underestimate the thrill and excitement a play gets from playing week in and week out. The adrenaline, the adulation of the fans, the impact, the competition, these are all things a player will no longer experience once retired.
So while it often can be be a bit like 'What now?!' it can also be a matter of 'I'm never, ever going to experience that thrill ever again' which can be a main contributor to depression.
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