As we come to the business end of the season Which would you sooner win Hub cap, Grand final, Challenge cup?

Might be worth sticking a poll on this? Grand Final for me very closely followed by the Challenge Cup. Not bothered about the hub cap it's just a means to an end.

Having said all that, it would be very frustrating to get this close to winning the cup and not managing it. I think it'll be a fairly even game but I wonder when the last time was when a team won the cup without having to play any of the top 5.

For me, sadly, it can only be the GF.

It's the only one that matters to most commentators (for reference, see Sky's references for the past 2 years to the 5th best team in the league as "The Champions"icon_wink.gif.

I would love to say the Challenge Cup, but it seems to have lost some of the magic for some unknown reason.

As for the LLS - Whilst that *SHOULD* be to most highly prized (as it is - theoretically at least - the hardest to win) - It appears to be utterly dismissed and not even counted as a trophy.
For reference, see the numerous BBC references, all the way through the CC buildup this year, to Wigan's "trophyless" 2012.

It's wrong. Most people acknowledge it as wrong, but it doesn't matter a jot if the public perception (spoon-fed by the media) is that it doesn't count.

Couldn't agree more
Really riles me the disrespect winning the league is given

All 3?

I'm with you on that Bluenose....

All of them. It's going to be really difficult now though with our run in in the league having to face Hull KR, Huddersfield, Catalans away, Hull and Leeds in the last few games. Add the extra game for the cup final, then I can't see us finishing top at all.

lls means nothing?,look on the wire board since they lost to hull.its now become a very important trophy.

Would take a loss at Wembley now if it meant a Grand Final win. No better feeling than lifting the championship at OT.

All 3 + the WCC

How quickly they have changed their tune since losing that match!

Link please. I can't find one on the wire board.

Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"Link please. I can't find one on the wire board.'" viewtopic.php? ... 1375267779 "I agree, we should target top spot as next priority." "Hope we can now finish top of the league, as this is the true measure of the champion team." "That's my order of importence exactly as well. I have never allowed myself to be branwashed by Sky and have always called the Grand Final, The Mickey Mouse Cup since year 1 of Super League and will never change my mind on this. I am also slightly over forty and was a life member of the club before they took it off me when we moved to the HJ."

Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"Link please. I can't find one on the wire board.'" viewtopic.php? ... 1375267779 "I agree, we should target top spot as next priority." "Hope we can now finish top of the league, as this is the true measure of the champion team." "That's my order of importence exactly as well. I have never allowed myself to be branwashed by Sky and have always called the Grand Final, The Mickey Mouse Cup since year 1 of Super League and will never change my mind on this. I am also slightly over forty and was a life member of the club before they took it off me when we moved to the HJ."

Only comments from pie eaters have kept that going.

So what your saying is those Wolfs fans are only saying what their saying to wind up Wigan fans?

So to target the next trophy on offer after being knocked out of another is suddenly changing your tune? Everybody knows the order of importance so a poll is irrelevant. Last time you won at wembley warrington won the LLS and it was vice versa last year. There isn't a fan of either club who would honestly take the LLS over a wembley victory. Personally, as good an achievement as it is, i couldn't care less about finishing top. There is a good chance you could end up with a harder play off match than whoever finishes second.

Heart = Challenge Cup
Head = Grand Final

Then again I come from a mindset that thinks coming top of the league should get the most recognition - how stupid am I

The challenge cup will always be the big one to me having grown up during the 8 in a row but I hate losing and want us to win everything so obviously I'd like them all.

The grand final is the biggest and means the most nowadays. It's the game that everyone remembers the following season, gives you the tag of champions and allows you to wind opposition fans up with regardless of form and it gets you a place in the WCC. That's an even bigger incentive next year IMO with it being hosted down under.

We have had an easy cup run with our most difficult game being Hull KR away. So if we win at Wembley we will have won the challenge cup without beating any of the top 5 teams. The Challenge Cup Final is probably the best day out of the year but it is nowhere near as big an achievement as winning the GF.

That said, in 2011 we beat Wire away, Saints in the semi, then Leeds in the final which was probably as difficult as it could get. For me the CC is always second after the GF.

If we can only pick one it has to be the Challenge Cup, I love it, history, tradition, the occasion, the build up, coverage (even with Ray French) on national television, don't get me wrong I'd love to win the Grand Final, but it doesn't have the same 'feel' as Wembley, its seems more 'manufactured'...............IMO.

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The sad thing is that the one that is most difficult to win is classed as the least important.

All three.

As stated above it will always be GF for the bragging rights, but my heart will always be for the Challenge Cup.

As an occassion, nothing compares to 'Abide With Me' being sung out at the CC final (no mater who is playing). Goosebumps every time.