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| Just tweeted that he's popped his AC joint, anyone know how long this will put him out for?
On the plus side, a great opportunity for Sam Powell.
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| He didn't pop it. It was done for him by a chicken wing tackle.
Not good for us for next week at all.
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| if it's just popped and gone back in ok he could be ok, but with our next couple of fixtures it might be worth risking resting him for a couple of weeks and try Powell out in the halves for a couple of games and have Matty back fully fir for Leeds at the magic weekend
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| Quote ="DaveO"He didn't pop it. It was done for him by a chicken wing tackle.
Not good for us for next week at all.'"
Chicken wing tackle? Pretty sure it came from a late hit in the lead up to a Wigan try. He was still able to push the ref in arguing how the incident had been missed. Has learned well from Tomkins.
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| Quote ="Talent Spotter"Chicken wing tackle? Pretty sure it came from a late hit in the lead up to a Wigan try. He was still able to push the ref in arguing how the incident had been missed. Has learned well from Tomkins.'"
No worries, as a sign of good faith I hear Dr koukash is just going to buy him a knew AC joint.
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| It was a late shoulder charge from Griffin after Smith had passed the ball. Smith went straight to the ref who then put the incident on report.
Kris Radlinski said in the post match interview in the SS bar that it was a damaged ACL. He also said that Gelling had broke his collarbone with an estimated 12 weeks out.
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| Quote ="Talent Spotter"Chicken wing tackle? Pretty sure it came from a late hit in the lead up to a Wigan try. He was still able to push the ref in arguing how the incident had been missed. Has learned well from Tomkins.'"
The question is have you lot learned anything? Because if you don't start soon, the good doctor will be taking long strides elsewhere. Wigan did you like a kipper without even breaking sweat. A truly pedestrian show from a team who allegedly have ambitions, and a very poor turnout from your fans - 15 miles up the road and a dry Friday evening. Pathetic.
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| Quote ="Talent Spotter"Chicken wing tackle? Pretty sure it came from a late hit in the lead up to a Wigan try. He was still able to push the ref in arguing how the incident had been missed. Has learned well from Tomkins.'"
Talent spotter by name only then
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It was a late shoulder charge from Griffin after Smith had passed the ball. Smith went straight to the ref who then put the incident on report.
Kris Radlinski said in the post match interview in the SS bar that it was a damaged ACL. He also said that Gelling had broke his collarbone with an estimated 12 weeks out.'"
That sucks! I was really happy for Gelling when he was given a shot last night and he finished that try really well. That injury may well end his season though and he's out of contract after that.....
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| If Smith is out for a while then it's a massive test for Wane and what he's learned from last season and Tommy's injury.
Last season it was obvious that swapping a raft of players around to accommodate one missing #7 didn't work.
Lets hope that he gives one of the academy lads a run out. ATEOTD if they aren't good enough to step up in situations like this then we should have made sure we had adequate cover before the season start.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"That sucks! I was really happy for Gelling when he was given a shot last night and he finished that try really well. That injury may well end his season though and he's out of contract after that.....'"
Wane on the Wigan Warriors site:
"I feel sorry for Gells, he has worked hard to get back fit and he does that. I am disappointed for him but he will be back, [uhe is with us next year so he will have his time.[/u On Matty he was shoulder charged and I was really disappointed with that."
Looks like hes signed a new deal.
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Quote ="FIOS"Just tweeted that he's popped his AC joint, anyone know how long this will put him out for?
On the plus side, a great opportunity for Sam Powell.'"
Depends if he damaged ligaments and/or tendons. It can be anything from a couple of weeks to months.
Good website www.shoulderdoc.co.uk/ run by a top surgeon (fixed my shoulder for me)
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Quote ="FIOS"Just tweeted that he's popped his AC joint, anyone know how long this will put him out for?
On the plus side, a great opportunity for Sam Powell.'"
Depends if he damaged ligaments and/or tendons. It can be anything from a couple of weeks to months.
Good website www.shoulderdoc.co.uk/ run by a top surgeon (fixed my shoulder for me)
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| Terrible joint for injuries, i'll need a need joint in the next ten years
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| I'd done my AC ligaments, still suffer from it now occasionally, was agony for months. He has good physios available who'll help him though.
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| He'll be fine. 3 weeks maximum
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| seen him in pub today with his girlfriend is looks ok just a black eye moving his arm ok
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| If he is injured, and misses games, it might be interesting to hear from people who were disappointed that the shoulder charge was made illegal.
Just playing devils advocate.. :~)
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"If he is injured, and misses games, it might be interesting to hear from people who were disappointed that the shoulder charge was made illegal.
Just playing devils advocate.. :~)'"
Shoulder charges are fine, as long as they are legal. This was a late hit.
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"Shoulder charges are fine, as long as they are legal. This was a late hit.'"
It was late, but he was not hit with a rolled up newspaper...
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"It was late, but he was not hit with a rolled up newspaper...'"
Didn't say he was. As long as a shoulder charge is legal, it can be a thing of beauty. If it's late or an attack to the head then it can also be very dangerous. Much like most aspects of our sport.
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"Didn't say he was. As long as a shoulder charge is legal, it can be a thing of beauty. If it's late or an attack to the head then it can also be very dangerous. Much like most aspects of our sport.'"
We had a similar conversation at the Huddersfield versus Warrington match on Sunday.
There's a definite difference between using the shoulder forcefully and effectively in defence and a shoulder charge that's reckless and dangerous.
I sort of understand why the "shoulder charger" has been banned, but I've seen a few penalties since the implementation that were, for want of a better phrase, a bit soft. Even Brett Hodgson got penalised for one yesterday and it was the best tackle I've seen him make since he started playing over here!
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| Quote ="The Riddler"We had a similar conversation at the Huddersfield versus Warrington match on Sunday.
There's a definite difference between using the shoulder forcefully and effectively in defence and a shoulder charge that's reckless and dangerous.
I sort of understand why the "shoulder charger" has been banned, but I've seen a few penalties since the implementation that were, for want of a better phrase, a bit soft. Even Brett Hodgson got penalised for one yesterday and it was the best tackle I've seen him make since he started playing over here!'"
Tommy L had it mastered and it was a wonderful sight. However a few too many people arent skillful enough to do it and try and be a big man only for it to be a direct head shot.
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| The shot from Griffin was certainly late, but the actual shoulder hit wasn't something that would have warranted being penalised last season I don't think. Wasn't high, at the head or specifically aimed, just solid and Matty Smith came off unlucky from it
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| Maybe not as bad as first thought - he's not completely ruled out for Sunday, though Wane says it's "unlikely".
[urlhttp://www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-warriors/smith-is-a-big-doubt-for-challenge-cup-trip-1-5658886[/url
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| According to the RFL, the contact was Smith's shoulder into Griffin's chest so no case to answer. Bad news for Matty however you spin it though.
[urlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?4405[/url
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