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| Surely that can be the only reason for releasing mossop early from his contact for a fee?
EDIT : I renamed the title is said before 'Financial issues on the horizon (mossop)'
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| Not really
Whilst i rate Mossop highly i think it's a very good piece of business for the club.
He's a good player but his injury record is a serious concern. He's not completed a full season since he broke through to the 1st team.
Add to that he's OOC contract at the end of next season means we are picking up money for a player that would probably leave 12 months down the line.
Mossop could either be the next Peacock or he could be the next Prescott and never play.
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| Why not sell while we can? If he is going to go anyway, we may as well get some cash, maybe his injuries make it a sensible move. Why do people always look for then negative?
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| He's going to go at some point because NRL clubs can afford to pay him more & are interested. No financial difficulties, there's just only so much you can pay a prop forward, even one as good as him.
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| I watched Mossop closely today and as much as he's a good player he's nowhere near irraplacable. He didn't do anything that Dudson or Crosby didn't do and he didn't perform any better then they have been doing for a few weeks. It's obviously his first game back and he'll improve but still.
Give me a choice of losing Hansen or Mossop for next year and I'd rather lose Mossop without doubt. Sadly I fear both will be heading to the NRL for 2014.
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| We have some cracking players coming through in Crosby and Burke it's just a shame we will probably never see the best if them at Wigan, just like we will not see the best if Mossop.
It's frustrating that fans are accepting the fact that we will lose our best players to the NRL, but it is a cold hard fact of the financial state of the 2 games.
We are currently a feeder system with players main aim to play well so they can move on to the next level.
If he has indicated he will be looking for aove when his contract is up it makes sense to cash in on him and part on good terms in the hope he returns at the back end of his career after a successful career in Australia.
One thing that the lads have to consider is the step up may be too much. Players like Tommy have gone back and really struggled to find their feet so far.
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| i think it is smart to sell players and make a bit of cash especially with the players in your ranks coming through otherwise they just see out there contracts and go for free very smart from the board room.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I watched Mossop closely today and as much as he's a good player he's nowhere near irraplacable. He didn't do anything that Dudson or Crosby didn't do and he didn't perform any better then they have been doing for a few weeks. It's obviously his first game back and he'll improve but still.
Give me a choice of losing Hansen or Mossop for next year and I'd rather lose Mossop without doubt. Sadly I fear both will be heading to the NRL for 2014.'"
I though that a few times.
When Mossop plays to his absolute best he's a class above BUT it's very rarely that we see that level of performance on a consistent basis. Maybe that's due to injuries but i still don't think we've ever seen the best that Mossop has to offer on a regular basis.
I really do think that next season we should look at replacing Mossop with a steady & experienced player. Someone who's can generate consistent if not unspectacular results with a good previous injury records. I'm talking about the type of player Coley or Ray Cashmere were and Kylie Leuluai has been.
We need an old head who can get those tough 5 yards time and time again for a full season of games.
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| I guess your right this is more to do with the salary cap differences between the superleague and NRL
I guess our only hope is that the player will come back to us in the later stages of their paying days
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| Do we have another world record here, for the changes to a thread title!!!!
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| We should at least have some cap money to play with next year with both Mossop and Hock off the books!!
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| If Mossops career at Paramatta / wherever he ends up is anything like it has been at Wigan so far he will be a massive flop. No way would he get straight back into an NRL team the way he does at Wigan if his injury keeps reoccurring. If I was him I would at least want to get through two (maybe even one) full season before even thinking about going to the NRL.
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| If he flops he'll still get paid and can say he gave it a go. He'll also get another gig in SL after.
If he stays and get's injured AGAIN then he's never going to get a gig in the NRL.
If i was Mossop I'd go for it knowing i could always come back.
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| We can't compete with the NRL or the RU due to the salary cap constraints implemented in this country and this will occur far more frequently as the NRL and the rugger boys will cherry pick the best players in our comp
On a side note Dean Bell is in our country on a scouting mission looking for talent for the NZ Warriors,no doubt that Farrell's name has been jotted down
I am proud when RL players have the B4lls to move from their comfort zone and try their luck in the NRL,I just hope that the SL is not going to be a feeder comp for them
Sam must be high on the list of both the NRL and RU is he next?
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| It's interesting that it just seems like Wigan players are being cherry picked.
Why is that? What are other teams doing right to ward off interest?
As for Mossop - not too fussed. He's never healthy enough to be missed.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"We should at least have some cap money to play with next year with both Mossop and Hock off the books!!'"
We should have had some this year...........
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| Quote ="P-J"=#FF0000It's interesting that it just seems like Wigan players are being cherry picked.
Why is that? What are other teams doing right to ward off interest?
As for Mossop - not too fussed. He's never healthy enough to be missed.'"
It's not though is it?
Graham from Saints, Burgess x 3 from Bradford, Burgess x 1 from Leeds.
Briscoe from Hull is a target
I have no doubt that there will be many more.
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| Cream always rises.
I liked the look of Lloyd White at Cas yesterday. And Pickersgill looked useful.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It's not though is it?
Graham from Saints, Burgess x 3 from Bradford, Burgess x 1 from Leeds.
Briscoe from Hull is a target
I have no doubt that there will be many more.'"
Add Eastmond to that list who was destined to be England's long term half back, imagine Widdop and Eastmond as a halves combination!
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| It never ceases to amaze me how our players, according to some supporters, suddenly become rubbish the moment they leave. Mossop is an excellent young player who has served Wigan RLFC well. So much so that he is wanted in the NRL.
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| Quote ="P-J"
As for Mossop - not too fussed. He's never healthy enough to be missed.'"
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how many years does he have left on his contract? are we looking at a decent fee for him?
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| Mossop was great first half of last season. Hes had a slow 12 months, so his performances are hardly at the forefront of anyones memories.
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| Quote ="Fylde_Warrior"It never ceases to amaze me how our players, according to some supporters, suddenly become rubbish the moment they leave. Mossop is an excellent young player who has served Wigan RLFC well. So much so that he is wanted in the NRL.'"
Mossop has huge potential but he's had that for a while now and I don't think his game has developed as we'd have liked so far. I think injuries have played their part for sure but he also did a seasons worth of cruising last year when he had a pretty poor season. He's started this season in much better form but its again been blighted by those injury issues.
I think he'll have a big year this season in World Cup year to try and cement his spot in the side then move over to Oz for a new challenge. I think that will be great for his development and it should help him fulfil that potential.
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| I still maintain that if Mossop hadn't popped his shoulder back in during the Challenge Cup Final to come back on we probably would've lost. He gave us a real boost when it was needed
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| Lots of Mossop bashing before he's out of the door, same people who were banging on not so long ago about how he's the next Jamie Peacock, Dom Crosby probably has that mantle now.
Seems to be a bigger issue than Mossop going, he's just another piece in the negative pattern forming at our once prestigious club. I say once as it's clearly not the honour it once was to wear the cherry and white; evidence? Players are not just leaving, they are breaking their contracts to leave or even using Wigan as a shop window to finish in the NRL or SL.
A contract seems to be a method of securing payment for a player when he signs for another club when under contract, not something to honour.
We are getting the financial rewards as we sell our young promising talent, but for what? Now we still look within as there's no one of quality who's obtainable, that is evidence with the lack of movement in the transfer market, linked with a 31yr troublemaking Union forward; so very exciting
Are we going to sign a player of Mossop's quality or potential in return? I don't see how.
Worse so, I think this is only the beginning, expect to see Sam, Faz, Josh etc to follow in time, I mean, why would you stay?
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