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| Is it just me or does he look like he has been trimming the fat. He looks lean and mean and is moving like a freight train.
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| Quote ="Cherry_Warrior"Is it just me or does he look like he has been trimming the fat. He looks lean and mean and is moving like a freight train.'"
Is this the same Hock who (according to some) has played his last game for Wigan due to the rumours that have been going around??!!
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| Quote ="MattyB"Is this the same Hock who (according to some) has played his last game for Wigan due to the rumours that have been going around??!!'"
What rumours are they?
Has he been outed in the Jimmy Saville inquest?
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| He's getting stronger as the game progresses. It's difficult when you are a physical player like Hock or O'Loughlin in games like this.
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| Hock was immense today and tore Wales to shreds. Enjoyed watching him again, more of the same next season I hope!!
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| Too good for Wales that's for sure. He is a machine of a runner and we simply must keep him at Wigan(hopefully any rumours are just that).
I was pretty impressed with him 'just' managing to keep his brain in gear when he was shoved by Elliot Kear. Some people will criticise him for getting involved at all but he's lost it bigtime in the past in those situations.
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| The rumours about him are more than just rumours. He is in talks with an NRL club, the main reason being to escape his old life. If the move does come off you will be receiving a tidy pay slip for him. As for him playing his last game for Wigan that may not strictly be true, it may not necessarily go through before the start of the season. When there's a long contract and a large fee involved there are plenty of stumbling blocks.
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| No more need for Hock rumours now Fielden has left. all's well.
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| Quote ="TheSurgeon"No more need for Hock rumours now Fielden has left. all's well.'"
That wasn't the reason. Although hopefully we will see them clash next season, should be interesting if they do.
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| At times he was unplayable today all be it against poor opposition. It would be a massive loss for us if he were to go as he provides us with strike from the backrow. If it to better his life though and get away from his demons then fair play to the lad.
Hope it is all just rumours though as he would be a massive loss to our competition.
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| Do they not have cocaine in Aus then??
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| Quote ="Katrina"Do they not have cocaine in Aus then??
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He wants to get away from his old friends who may encourage him back into that lifestyle. Surely that's pretty obvious, not that he wants to move to a cocaine free land.
Quite commendable really and he would be going for all the right reasons.
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| Surely he just needs to move away from Beech Hill to escape his old life as opposed to uggering of the Aus?
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| I'm sure the likes of Greg Bird (and his ilk) will be at the airport to welcome him with open arms!
I regularly read that the press treat NRL stars much like our press treat Premier League footballers and that some players move to the UK to get out of the 'goldfish bowl' that is the NRL - Doggie Monaghan for one, Tim Smith for two.
Not sure this would be the most ideal environment for Hock to be in at all.
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| I'm not a huge fan of Hock - the main reason being I don't think he has the brain to back up his terrific physical talents.
Personally it wouldn't bother me too much if he went. But that's just me and I can understand why others really like him. But I prefer solid, reliable players who play with intelligence. I wouldn't want to count on him in a high pressure situation.
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"Surely he just needs to move away from Beech Hill to escape his old life as opposed to uggering of the Aus?'"
My thoughts exactly...
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| Well he's in talks with Sydney Roosters for that exact reason, I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the outcome is. There's no better judge for what is best for him than Hock himself.
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| we never missed him when he was banned and we won't miss him if he goes
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"Surely he just needs to move away from Beech Hill to escape his old life as opposed to uggering of the Aus?'"
So he moves to Standish say. What stops his friends heading to Standish to see him? I doubt they can hop a flight to Oz as easy.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Well he's in talks with Sydney Roosters for that exact reason, I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the outcome is. There's no better judge for what is best for him than Hock himself.'"
That would be some back row if they got SBW and Hock! Hope we can keep him, but if this is what he needs to escape his old life, that is so much more important than rugby.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Well he's in talks with Sydney Roosters for that exact reason, I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the outcome is. There's no better judge for what is best for him than Hock himself.'"
The Roosters are having significant cap problems due to the arrival of SBW and are having to release players to accommodate him, they have also resigned Minichello, so if true I would be less concerned due to the package they will be able to offer him.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"But I prefer solid, reliable players who play with intelligence. '"
A lot in the game agree with you, which is why the game doesn't produce maverick players who can turn the game on its head in either direction. Get the public talking, put bums on seats.
The game is now stereotyped, insular and incestuous.
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| Quote ="Finfin"Quote ="MadDogg"But I prefer solid, reliable players who play with intelligence. '"
A lot in the game agree with you, which is why the game doesn't produce maverick players who can turn the game on its head in either direction. Get the public talking, put bums on seats.
The game is now stereotyped, insular and incestuous.'"
You make a good point - maybe thats simply the way to win in the modern game.
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| Quote ="Finfin"A lot in the game agree with you, which is why the game doesn't produce maverick players who can turn the game on its head in either direction. Get the public talking, put bums on seats.
The game is now stereotyped, insular and incestuous.'"
well summed up..
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| Quote ="Finfin"A lot in the game agree with you, which is why the game doesn't produce maverick players who can turn the game on its head in either direction. Get the public talking, put bums on seats.
The game is now stereotyped, insular and incestuous.'"
Get rid of that Tomkins kid, he's a bad influence.
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