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| Im really hoping hock is back for whoever we play in the semi, he was awsome against saints. also would love gil dudson to play as well, he was epic against catalan
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| Hopefully:
1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Darrell Goulding
4. George Carmont
5. Pat Richards
6. Brett Finch
7. Tommy Leuluai
8. Lee Mossop
9. Matty Smith
10. Eric Lauaki
11. Gareth Hock
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13. Sean O'Loughlin
14. Gil Dudson
15. Liam Farrell
16. Jeff Lima
17. Ben Flower
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| Hock in the starting line up for Hughes. Hughes on the bench for Flower or Dudson.
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| Tomkins
Charnley Goulding Carmont Richards
Finch Leuluai
Dudson O'Loughlin Mossop
Hansen Hock Farrell
Subs Lauaki Lima Hughes Smith
It's got to be 2 from Lauaki, Flower and Hughes on the bench I think. I wouldn't like to leave Hughes out because he's playing well and can cover 2 positions. I thought Flower was excellent against Catalans and would be unlucky to miss out but if Wane is playing him as a prop it'd be a waste having 3 on the bench.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Tomkins
Charnley Goulding Carmont Richards
Finch Leuluai
Dudson O'Loughlin Mossop
Hansen Hock Farrell
Subs Lauaki Lima Hughes Smith
It's got to be 2 from Lauaki, Flower and Hughes on the bench I think. I wouldn't like to leave Hughes out because he's playing well and can cover 2 positions. I thought Flower was excellent against Catalans and would be unlucky to miss out but if Wane is playing him as a prop it'd be a waste having 3 on the bench.'"
I think the bench will depend on who we play tbh. If we play Catalans again then I expect he will go big on the bench and take Dudson above Flower. If we play Leeds he may go for mobility which would obv have Flower ahead of Dudson.
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| Smith for me is a must start and play 80 mins
We would have beat Saints if he was playing his kicking game is the best in our team
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| Quote ="king warrior"Smith for me is a must start and play 80 mins
We would have beat Saints if he was playing his kicking game is the best in our team'"
Smith's not an 80 min hooker IMO. I thought starting Lockers at 9 and bringing Smith on off the bench worked really well against Catalans.
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"Smith's not an 80 min hooker IMO. I thought starting Lockers at 9 and bringing Smith on off the bench worked really well against Catalans.'" I agree change Tommy and Smith up each do 20 mins a half both need to do 80 for me it's crucial
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| Quote ="king warrior"I agree change Tommy and Smith up each do 20 mins a half both need to do 80 for me it's crucial'"
I disagree, keeping the Finch and Leuluai HB partnership together for 80 mins is more crucial. I hate it when we spell halfbacks and have to start moving 3 or 4 players around when we make a substitution. Start Lockers at 9, with Farrell at 13 and Smith on the bench, Smith comes on for Farrell and moves to hooker with Lockers going back to loose. That worked really well against Cats and I can't see why we wouldn't do it again.
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"I disagree, keeping the Finch and Leuluai HB partnership together for 80 mins is more crucial. I hate it when we spell halfbacks and have to start moving 3 or 4 players around when we make a substitution. Start Lockers at 9, with Farrell at 13 and Smith on the bench, Smith comes on for Farrell and moves to hooker with Lockers going back to loose. That worked really well against Cats and I can't see why we wouldn't do it again.'" It didn't though Lockers did an ok job at 9 just like he did at 6 the only reason that position change didn't get stick is cause Catalan was very poor you cant do it against top teams
Tommy,Smith and finch all know the script the only people you are changing is Tommy and Smith leave the subs for the forwards cause if we are in a close game we will need them fresh at all times and not blowing
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| Lockers at 9 to start against Cats was fine as they aint the greatest at putting pressure on the dummy half.....Leeds would be a different story, need a dummy half against them
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| Quote ="king warrior"It didn't though Lockers did an ok job at 9 just like he did at 6 the only reason that position change didn't get stick is cause Catalan was very poor you cant do it against top teams
Tommy,Smith and finch all know the script the only people you are changing is Tommy and Smith leave the subs for the forwards cause if we are in a close game we will need them fresh at all times and not blowing'"
Wane might go for that, can't see it though. Chopping and changing the halfbacks every 20 mins doesn't work, we lose fluidity. Finch and Tommy are looking somewhere near back to their best playing alongside each other. It's obviously not an ideal situation to have our 1st choice hooker out, but if a combination of Lockers and Smith can cover it and leave our 1st choice half backs together then that's what we should go for. I expect the only change from last week will be Hock in for Hughes.
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| I think Wigan are dubious about starting Smith at hooker due to a lack of physicality and I fully back that. These games are going to start at a good pace and teams will really be going at it in the forwards so to keep him out of the fire for 20-25 mins makes perfect sense.
He can then come on when bodies are tiring and hopefully start to probe around that middle area and get the opposition turning with his kicking game.
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"I disagree, keeping the Finch and Leuluai HB partnership together for 80 mins is more crucial. I hate it when we spell halfbacks and have to start moving 3 or 4 players around when we make a substitution. Start Lockers at 9, with Farrell at 13 and Smith on the bench, Smith comes on for Farrell and moves to hooker with Lockers going back to loose. That worked really well against Cats and I can't see why we wouldn't do it again.'"
Spot on.
Leuluai and Finch control the team, so don't interfere with that.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I think Wigan are dubious about starting Smith at hooker due to a lack of physicality and I fully back that. These games are going to start at a good pace and teams will really be going at it in the forwards so to keep him out of the fire for 20-25 mins makes perfect sense.
He can then come on when bodies are tiring and hopefully start to probe around that middle area and get the opposition turning with his kicking game.'" I agree about the physical part but flip that round how many games have been won and lost in the first 20 this season?
That against Catalan was training ground stuff lockers had all the time in the world to get the ball out to the half backs when you are playing teams like Wire,Saints and Leeds it's not going to cut Finch or Tommy would have near 0 options cause they are getting shut down and any coach knows this and will play on it
We have let Leeds and Wire get away this season in the first 20 and lost both and these 2 are the most likely options we will have come sat night
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| I'd stick with Lockers at 9 I was surprised at just how good he did at 9 Vs Catalan. Although I shouldn't have expected anything less, he's such a classy player. He wasn't just looking to distribute the ball straight away all the time, at times he would take the ball 3-4 yards before releasing to the hb's, thus taking the markers out of the game and he made good yards whenever he decided to scoot. I think we need the extra forward tackling down the middle early in the game without Micky, otherwise I can see us getting overpowered.
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| Agree with the above regardless of who we play Lockers has to play 9 for the first 20 or so.
The scoot does not really become effective until players start to fatigue at which point bringing Smith on makes the most sense.
All games at this stage should be physical and more intense than standard league games and that is why MM is such a big miss.
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| I would agree with Hock in for Hughes and keep the rest of the team as against Catalans. Flower and Dudson both deserve their spots in the 17. The squad is healthy compared to this time last year.
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| Quote ="stpatricks"I would agree with Hock in for Hughes and keep the rest of the team as against Catalans. Flower and Dudson both deserve their spots in the 17. The squad is healthy compared to this time last year.'"
Thats the team for me too.
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| Quote ="stpatricks"I would agree with Hock in for Hughes and keep the rest of the team as against Catalans. Flower and Dudson both deserve their spots in the 17. The squad is healthy compared to this time last year.'"
Hughes deserves his spot too
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| Tomkins
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Dudson Tommy Fielden
Hock Hansen
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Mossop to be dropped, under performed lately. Fielden looked keen and eager against Saints. Smith at 7 for his kicking game, Tommy to 9 as Tommy is the best 9 we have available.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Tomkins
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Mossop to be dropped, under performed lately. Fielden looked keen and eager against Saints. Smith at 7 for his kicking game, Tommy to 9 as Tommy is the best 9 we have available.'"
Mossop was superb against Catalans
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| Same team as Catalan only change is Hock for Hughes for me.
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| Depending how Fielden goes on Sunday for the under 20s I would be inclined to have him in the 17 for the Leeds match (if we pick them). Even though Jamie Peacock was involved and got away with a lot last night against the Catalans, I thought he took the ball up really well and had a very good game.
Peacock and Fielden have played together and against one another many times over the years and I think that it may bring the best out of big Stu to do so again.
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| Quote ="Conroy"Mossop was superb against Catalans'"
He was much improved. I've been his biggest critic lately but that was more like it and I hope he kicks on.
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