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| Think he does a good job defensively and carries strong and hard but personally wouldn't like to see him playing out there in a close game where there could possibly only be a couple of points in it. I know he's a 2nd row/centre playing on the wing but he's been there a while now would of liked to see him just pin the ears back and run for the corner last night on a few occassions but he seems to prefer coming back inside everytime when further than a couple metres out from the line.
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| Quote ="JCWWRL"Think he does a good job defensively and carries strong and hard but personally wouldn't like to see him playing out there in a close game where there could possibly only be a couple of points in it. I know he's a 2nd row/centre playing on the wing but he's been there a while now would of liked to see him just pin the ears back and run for the corner last night on a few occassions but he seems to prefer coming back inside everytime when further than a couple metres out from the line.'"
He's not quick enough to pin his ears back and go for the corner. Not worth risking trying to go on the outside of someone when you've not got the pace.
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| if he carried the ball in the correct hand he'd be able to go for the corner and use a fend, but he doesn't and thats why i think he comes back inside a lot.
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| Tony Iro he is not.
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| He was signed as a centre and does lack a bit of pace for a winger BUT he is doing a half decent job in Pat's absence particularly in defence, he is worth his place at the moment and a good player to have in the squad.
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| Not sure what he's offering myself. Give Ryan King a shot!
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| Quote ="JCWWRL"Think he does a good job defensively and carries strong and hard but personally wouldn't like to see him playing out there in a close game where there could possibly only be a couple of points in it. I know he's a 2nd row/centre playing on the wing but he's been there a while now would of liked to see him just pin the ears back and run for the corner last night on a few occassions but he seems to prefer coming back inside everytime when further than a couple metres out from the line.'"
He needs to run straight rather than trying to dance round players - he's a bull of a lad!
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| Quote ="Bilko"Not sure what he's offering myself. Give Ryan King a shot!'"
Agreed.
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| Apart from not quite having the pace or confidence to go for the corner and a lack of positional experience I think he's doing everything else really well. He's been a threat in the air in previous games, defends very well and I can't think of a winger who carries the ball much stronger than him in SL. Considering he is only playing because Pat is injured, I think he's doing very well.
I've only seen King once or twice and I do think it's worth giving him a chance, but not because of the way Gelling is playing.
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| I find it hard to believe there isn't an available British youngster who can't offer more. He looks like the big lad amateur teams put on the wing to learn the trade.
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| The trouble he has playing on the left wing is that he's consistently carrying the ball in his right hand (he did it in every one of his carries last night). This is preventing him from handing off covering defenders or giving defenders a big fend, knocking them off balance, before going round them a la paaaat. Its a relatively small thing, but it makes a HUGE difference for bigger wingers with slightly less pace and i'm amazed one of the coaches haven't picked up on this.
I will add this is fine if he's playing as it allows him to offload to his winger, but as a winger it's really not helping him and could be why he's seen spilling so much ball under contact. As a professional you should really be able to carry the ball in either hand.
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| Quote ="Bilko"Not sure what he's offering myself. Give Ryan King a shot!'"
I think Ryan King's form has dipped this season.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I think Ryan King's form has dipped this season.'"
I agree. When I've seen him this year he's been pretty unspectacular. He'll finish tries off like a natural winger will but he's not doing much anywhere else on the pitch. At the moment he'd be comparable to Jamie Foster.
If anyone deserves a shot on the wing it's Joe Burgess. If Williams is being considered for the first team then Burgess must be too.
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| I think he's doing a good enough job its just in a big game I'd rather see a winger who will make a run for the line when he has the room. George seems to get the ball out to him alot with room to run and he doesn't take it steps inside and is gang tackled and carried out or knocks on quite abit. Murphy seems to be in the match day squad quite alot recently so is he in Wane's plans more than the other young wingers I'd assume.
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| Gelling just has something about him that I like. He's like bamby on ice at points with his long legs and arms flaying about the place but he has something about him. I'm convinced he isn't a winger but he's got a lot of talent and with patience, good coaching and a chance in a position more suited to his game I believe we've found a real talent.
He's frustrating at times but I honestly believe if we're patient he'll repay everyone's faith.
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| People are not happy about him cutting on the inside, but put quite simply he hasnt got the pace to beat a man on the outside, nor a decent fend to stop him being put in touch.
Ideally he would be put at centre/SR but we have plenty of players in that position so for me he is doing a decent Job.
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| I like Gelling I think he's got a lot going for him, he just lacks that extra bit of pace to get around his opposite winger. He's a real handful in the tackle, has great feet and doesn't shirk the tough stuff.
I'd like to see him get a few games at centre to really judge him fairly.
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| This lad with our coaching system should get better and better he is a raw talent and playing out of position but he seems to fit in with our style of play at the moment. Defensively good takes it in hard in our own 20 giving our forwards some time. In my view he is our best option at present and can only keep improving.
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| Quote ="shambawangy"People are not happy about him cutting on the inside, but put quite simply he hasnt got the pace to beat a man on the outside, nor a decent fend to stop him being put in touch.
Ideally he would be put at centre/SR but we have plenty of players in that position so for me he is doing a decent Job.'"
If he carried the ball in the correct hand he might well have a good fend.. He's easily big enough!
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| well at least he is in the best place on the field to watch a master in the craft of centre play, being outside George can only be good for him to pick up how a centre should play the game at this level. He might be Waney's option for next year for all we know in place of George.
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| Some of the criticism for Gelling is ridiculous. If it was a young local lad people wouldn't be so harsh. He's 21 and has never played winger in his whole life until a few weeks ago. Yeah he ain't beating people on the outside but this season neither was Richards, he continually came back inside. He finished his try very well and made a couple of strong carries. He'll do better at centre/SR
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| Quote ="Cherry.Pie"I agree. When I've seen him this year he's been pretty unspectacular. He'll finish tries off like a natural winger will but he's not doing much anywhere else on the pitch. At the moment he'd be comparable to Jamie Foster.
If anyone deserves a shot on the wing it's Joe Burgess. If Williams is being considered for the first team then Burgess must be too.'"
Of the three youngsters Williams, Hampshire and Burgess, Burgess would get first chance for me, and I'm a big fan of all three.
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| i think hes doing a good job
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| Quote ="cherryandwhitedavid06"Some of the criticism for Gelling is ridiculous. If it was a young local lad people wouldn't be so harsh. He's 21 and has never played winger in his whole life until a few weeks ago. Yeah he ain't beating people on the outside but this season neither was Richards, he continually came back inside. He finished his try very well and made a couple of strong carries. He'll do better at centre/SR'"
Nothing to do with where he comes from, everything to do with how he's performing, and he just fails to make the best of chances and half-chances.
I agree he's got lots of potential, and I do think he'll come good eventually, but there are other players who have similar potential who aren't getting their chances to see if they can do better than him.
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| Quote ="Geoff"Nothing to do with where he comes from, everything to do with how he's performing, and he just fails to make the best of chances and half-chances.
I agree he's got lots of potential, and I do think he'll come good eventually, but there are other players who have similar potential who aren't getting their chances to see if they can do better than him.'"
Ryan King would get murdered in defence and under the high ball. He ain't good enough from what I've seen. Richards often cuts inside
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