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No doubt this will probably end up locked because those within the brigantees group wont be able to respond to general discussion but felt this needed raising.....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz0YBoHf ... re=related
When I watch videos like this I cant help but think this is all going to end in nothing but trouble im afraid, and going to drag the good name of Wigan RLFC and rugby league through the mud!
I know most of the brigantees arguments on here usually end up being black and white depending whether those posting are in or out of the brigantees clique, but im actually not generally one of the brigantees bashers- I think there's certain things they've done which are very good such as the flags and improvements in atmosphere etc. however the element within the group which seem to think they are some sort of european football firm need to be stopped.
Im all for pre-match atmosphere and singing and banter with the opposition, but walking though an away teams town centre blocking the road with a silly banner, with scarves round their face, and singing about the town being s**t , and 'we'll do what we want'' etc. is just asking for trouble. At the very best its intimidating to any general members of the public and is not something I want our great club to be associated with - at worst, its got potential to start a mini riot/ mass brawl! They only need to run into a similar group from the opposition, or a few fans or general public who take exception and it will all kick off.
If afraid if this is repeated at warrington we'll end up seeing a town centre kick off because their idiots will respond badly to this.
Lets go, raise the atmosphere, sing in the ground, have a few beers and a good laugh from the oppostion but we need to remember this isnt football, and cut all this ultra's cr@p before it ends up doing some damage!
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No doubt this will probably end up locked because those within the brigantees group wont be able to respond to general discussion but felt this needed raising.....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz0YBoHf ... re=related
When I watch videos like this I cant help but think this is all going to end in nothing but trouble im afraid, and going to drag the good name of Wigan RLFC and rugby league through the mud!
I know most of the brigantees arguments on here usually end up being black and white depending whether those posting are in or out of the brigantees clique, but im actually not generally one of the brigantees bashers- I think there's certain things they've done which are very good such as the flags and improvements in atmosphere etc. however the element within the group which seem to think they are some sort of european football firm need to be stopped.
Im all for pre-match atmosphere and singing and banter with the opposition, but walking though an away teams town centre blocking the road with a silly banner, with scarves round their face, and singing about the town being s**t , and 'we'll do what we want'' etc. is just asking for trouble. At the very best its intimidating to any general members of the public and is not something I want our great club to be associated with - at worst, its got potential to start a mini riot/ mass brawl! They only need to run into a similar group from the opposition, or a few fans or general public who take exception and it will all kick off.
If afraid if this is repeated at warrington we'll end up seeing a town centre kick off because their idiots will respond badly to this.
Lets go, raise the atmosphere, sing in the ground, have a few beers and a good laugh from the oppostion but we need to remember this isnt football, and cut all this ultra's cr@p before it ends up doing some damage!
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| Brigantes have done some good things and should be applauded for that. This is just asking for trouble though and some day soon they'll find it and won't be doing it again.
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| i hope this is just a minority of kn#b heads. and that those of the Brigantes who purport to condemn this behavior do so immediately, identify those that can be & bar them.
this blx brings us crashing down to the level of the average 1970s soccer club and should stamped on without favour or mercy.
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| Cue another 18 page thread . I really couldn't give a stuff. Let em do what they want to do.
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Not a brigantes basher ? Looks like that to me Quote ="gerr'emonside"No doubt this will probably end up locked because those within the brigantees group wont be able to respond to general discussion but felt this needed raising.....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz0YBoHf ... re=related
When I watch videos like this I cant help but think this is all going to end in nothing but trouble im afraid, and going to drag the good name of Wigan RLFC and rugby league through the mud!
I know most of the brigantees arguments on here usually end up being black and white depending whether those posting are in or out of the brigantees clique, but im actually not generally one of the brigantees bashers- I think there's certain things they've done which are very good such as the flags and improvements in atmosphere etc. however the element within the group which seem to think they are some sort of european football firm need to be stopped.
Im all for pre-match atmosphere and singing and banter with the opposition, but walking though an away teams town centre blocking the road with a silly banner, with scarves round their face, and singing about the town being s**t , and 'we'll do what we want'' etc. is just asking for trouble. At the very best its intimidating to any general members of the public and is not something I want our great club to be associated with - at worst, its got potential to start a mini riot/ mass brawl! They only need to run into a similar group from the opposition, or a few fans or general public who take exception and it will all kick off.
If afraid if this is repeated at warrington we'll end up seeing a town centre kick off because their idiots will respond badly to this.
Lets go, raise the atmosphere, sing in the ground, have a few beers and a good laugh from the oppostion but we need to remember this isnt football, and cut all this ultra's cr@p before it ends up doing some damage!'"
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Not a brigantes basher ? Looks like that to me Quote ="gerr'emonside"No doubt this will probably end up locked because those within the brigantees group wont be able to respond to general discussion but felt this needed raising.....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz0YBoHf ... re=related
When I watch videos like this I cant help but think this is all going to end in nothing but trouble im afraid, and going to drag the good name of Wigan RLFC and rugby league through the mud!
I know most of the brigantees arguments on here usually end up being black and white depending whether those posting are in or out of the brigantees clique, but im actually not generally one of the brigantees bashers- I think there's certain things they've done which are very good such as the flags and improvements in atmosphere etc. however the element within the group which seem to think they are some sort of european football firm need to be stopped.
Im all for pre-match atmosphere and singing and banter with the opposition, but walking though an away teams town centre blocking the road with a silly banner, with scarves round their face, and singing about the town being s**t , and 'we'll do what we want'' etc. is just asking for trouble. At the very best its intimidating to any general members of the public and is not something I want our great club to be associated with - at worst, its got potential to start a mini riot/ mass brawl! They only need to run into a similar group from the opposition, or a few fans or general public who take exception and it will all kick off.
If afraid if this is repeated at warrington we'll end up seeing a town centre kick off because their idiots will respond badly to this.
Lets go, raise the atmosphere, sing in the ground, have a few beers and a good laugh from the oppostion but we need to remember this isnt football, and cut all this ultra's cr@p before it ends up doing some damage!'"
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| Quote ="tiesto_80"Nothing on tv tonight folks ?
Sad'"
well actually yes, just got back from the pub, waiting for the curry to arrive before sitting down to that new Danish murder thingy on 4.
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| I don't want that group in that video representing my club. No matter what the aim of the little boys treehouse club is - this is down right stupid. You look like at best a group of idiots and at worst a gang of thugs.
Cut it out. Cut it out now.
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| In all honesty it's half expected from what appears to be a bunch of degenerate thugs in the video, not that shocking in society. However, what worries me or amuses me I can't decide, is the middle aged man going along with it with a bunch of teenagers.
I am not calling all Brigantes degenerate thugs there, just the ones in the video.
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"I don't want that group in that video representing my club. No matter what the aim of the little boys treehouse club is - this is down right stupid. You look like at best a group of idiots and at worst a gang of thugs.
Cut it out. Cut it out now.'"
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i cringed like mad watching that video, I expect that of Liverpool fans visiting Manchester for a game against Man Utd, not Wigan fans. It's sad to say that, whilst I absolutely love the Brigantes and what they do, we can't escape from the fact it will certainly attract this element of support, with scarves over their faces and intimidation, just a bit sad and pathetic really
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| Quote ="tiesto_80"Not a brigantes basher ? Looks like that to me '"
Im not actually.....just bashing moronic behaviour which, as the poster has stated above, brings us crashing down to the level of a 70s soccer club.
My post was actually a balanced look at the brigantees - The brigantees have done some excelent things regarding flags, matchday atmosphere etc as I raised in my post, however this sort of behaviour has no place in Rugby League IMO.
Had these been st Helens/ wire lads doing this in wigan we would have all been calling them D*cks and laying into them. IMO this sort of behaviour is intimidating and is asking for trouble - plus the fact they're just making wigan look like morons- you can hear the chaos they're causing behind them with all the cars and buses blowing their horns but carry on regardless, then singing, we'll do what we want!
The lads on this video are ale'd up idiots who should be allowed no affiliation with those people within the group who have gone to such efforts to do the good things for the club as I raised above.
It looks more like an EDL march than rugby fans going to a game, especially with the idiots who cover their faces with scarves!!
Dont know whether to laugh or cry at the patheticness of it but unfortunately it WILL end in trouble and it WILL drag our good name, and possibly the good name of Rugby League through the mud - This needs stoping now IMO.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"In all honesty it's half expected from what appears to be a bunch of degenerate thugs in the video, not that shocking in society. However, what worries me or amuses me I can't decide, is the middle aged man going along with it with a bunch of teenagers.
I am not calling all Brigantes degenerate thugs there, just the ones in the video.'"
I think that's a little out of order. There is nothing in that video that could lead you to suggest that they are 'degenerate thugs'.
The problem is they appear to be acting a bit like daft football hooligans with scarves over their faces, shouting and swearing in public and appearing to block or slow traffic by walking in the middle of the road.
It's hardly a glowing endorsement of the club and it's fans, but I'd like to say the people in the video were acting like morons, they aren't acting like thugs.
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| Quote ="tiesto_80"Not a brigantes basher ? Looks like that to me '"
Think he has a valid point and your attitude to it is worse. Wouldn't want fans from my club doing this. I know it is a minority but the minority always spoil it for most and these issues need to be addressed not the sort of images you want to see at a RL GAME
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| Quote ="Cherry.Pie"I think that's a little out of order. There is nothing in that video that could lead you to suggest that they are 'degenerate thugs'.
The problem is they appear to be acting a bit like daft football hooligans with scarves over their faces, shouting and swearing in public and appearing to block or slow traffic by walking in the middle of the road.
It's hardly a glowing endorsement of the club and it's fans, but I'd like to say the people in the video were acting like morons, they aren't acting like thugs.'"
Yeah you're probably right in all fairness, it isn't thuggish I suppose. Morons sums it up much better, good choice of phrase.
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| Absolute muppets.
I questioned the scarves over faces thing after the Saints game and was told it was just for one photo and only a couple of lads doing it.
Also I'm pretty sure most of the Brigantes 'leaders' are there - Jimmy Birts, Odem, etc? Apologies if I'm wrong though.
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| If that happens in Hull tommorow, god help them
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Absolute muppets.
I questioned the scarves over faces thing after the Saints game and was told it was just for one photo and only a couple of lads doing it.
Also I'm pretty sure most of the Brigantes 'leaders' are there - Jimmy Birts, Odem, etc? Apologies if I'm wrong though.'"
Are they the three adults in this group who look like they should know better? One guy looks around 50 yet seems to want to go to the rugby with a load of ale'd up teenaged children making muppets of themselves!! As one of the poster remarked above, what makes grown men want to hang around with kids is seriously worrying yet slightly amusing at the same time!?!
Guess its the kudos of fact that because of their age they become an unchallenged leader in the group, which they probably struggle to achieve with people in their own age group, because they are invariably viewed as losers by their own peers!
Sure the ugly ginger kid at the end is also the lad that caused all the trouble with cas fans at Murryfield magic and then came on here protesting his innocence, claiming he wasnt an idiot, and just a genuine fan....this would seem to suggest otherwise!!
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| Is it this lot on the McDonald's video?
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| i'm sorry but that was very sad! now if i witness that when wigan visit warrington it will give me something to laugh about for years to come!
i've seen people stating the scarf over the face thing was done because it can be cold at times! please how stupid do you think people are? the police will begin to take a serious interest in this childish gang mentality if it continues, very silly behaviour!
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| I have seen wire and saints fans walking from the train station to the ground singing! That is all that went on. No violence. Nobody having too much to drink. No trouble.
We walked through the centre of the town to the pub singing and went for a drink. Then went to the ground, when we got their we were singing. Let lads be lads. It is just a bit of singing in the street. We got off the train and were followed by many younger lads attaching themselves to the group, we don't mind. We were just singing, nobody got hurt, no trouble!
I saw many other things on that day which nobody has mentioned, lads blind drunk with red faces also seen in riversiders shirts occasionally, nobody ever mentions them!
That is all the group has to say on the issue really.... I can't be doing with another RL fans 18page thread so I will leave it there.
PS - though youtube vids were not allowed on here unless they were taken by the person posting
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| cover your faces = asking for trouble!
p.s. asking for the video footage to be removed tells me your a little red faced!
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| Quote ="brewedindublin"Is it this lot on the McDonald's video?'"
The kids from the McDonalds video are from Standish High, think this lot are a little to old to be at school.
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