Quote Wigan Warriors 2012 Squad List 1 Sam Tomkins 2 Josh Charnley * 3 Darrell Goulding * 4 George Carmont 5 Pat Richards 6 Brett Finch * 7 Thomas Leuluai 8 Paul Prescott * 9 Michael McIlorum 10 Lee Mossop * 11 Harrison Hansen 12 Gareth Hock * 13 Sean O'Loughlin 14 Jeff Lima* 15 Stuart Fielden * 16 Liam Farrell * 17 Chris Tuson * 18 Warriors Fans 19 Stefan Marsh * 20 Amos Roberts * 21 Epalahame Lauaki * 22 23 24 25 Joe Mellor * 26 Jack Hughes * 27 Matty Russell * 28 Logan Tomkins * 29 Sam Powell * 30 Ryan King* 31 Greg Burke * 32 Tom Spencer * 33 Dom Crosby * 34 Liam Carberry* * Indicates new squad number or change from 2011.'" www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news presumably the free numbers are for dudson and flower... and maybe someone else?

Quote Wigan Warriors 2012 Squad List 1 Sam Tomkins 2 Josh Charnley * 3 Darrell Goulding * 4 George Carmont 5 Pat Richards 6 Brett Finch * 7 Thomas Leuluai 8 Paul Prescott * 9 Michael McIlorum 10 Lee Mossop * 11 Harrison Hansen 12 Gareth Hock * 13 Sean O'Loughlin 14 Jeff Lima* 15 Stuart Fielden * 16 Liam Farrell * 17 Chris Tuson * 18 Warriors Fans 19 Stefan Marsh * 20 Amos Roberts * 21 Epalahame Lauaki * 22 23 24 25 Joe Mellor * 26 Jack Hughes * 27 Matty Russell * 28 Logan Tomkins * 29 Sam Powell * 30 Ryan King* 31 Greg Burke * 32 Tom Spencer * 33 Dom Crosby * 34 Liam Carberry* * Indicates new squad number or change from 2011.'" www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news presumably the free numbers are for dudson and flower... and maybe someone else?

Well that's confirmation of Goulding in the centres then, I must admit I do fear this defensively, but I'll keep that opinion tucked away and give them a chance, they deserve it!

Glad to see Mossop and Preccy rewarded for their hard work!

Great to see Prekky and Mossop with first team numbers. Well deserved.

Joe Mellor will be a breakout player, the last few to wear 25 have all done pretty well...

9 of the first 13, and 11 of first 17 are all Wigan produced lads, including an entire Wigan made pack 8-13.

I doubt we'll be fielding the team in numerical order, or at least I hope not.

Great depth in the Forwards, we've got some real scope to rotate them around, and in the process keep them all fresh and fit.

My only concern, like I'd imagine everyone else's, is centre. Hopefully one of the trio coming in will give us some depth in that position.


I'm presuming Dudson and Flower. But the third? He's another young player at least, if Lenegan's comments are anything to go off.

Number 25 has been extremely lucky for the last two players, hope it works out that way for Joe this season

Why not? That's pretty much the side everyone would pick at the minute (I'd have thought), some may throw Mellor in there, Id consider it, but that first 17 is pretty accurate for me at the minute.



This mythical Super League centre we've signed maybe?

Well I'm personally not particularly enthralled by Goulding at three and Tommy at 7. But I'd agree that's probably how we'll start the season.

I also wouldn't start Mossop and Prescott together. But now I'm just nitpicking.




Fingers crossed.

God knows we could do with some depth there. Touch wood Carmont can make it through the season without injury.

I don't rate Goulding, if he comes up good this season, great, but I'm not holding out much hope. I also don't rate Marsh that highly, however I think he's got more of a creative spark and more potential than Goulding, so I'd hope he'll get some game time.

I think we may have to just get used to not having the luxury of the squad depth we've been used to, we have/had a young side anyway with a lot of youngsters coming through on low contracts at once (Tomkins x 2, Farrell, Mossop, Charnley, Tuson, Goulding) who will all need upgrades. Squad depth in the last few years has come from those youngsters breaking through, that's why we've had it in the forwards, now we need some centres to turn good.

Must say looking at that...for the first time in 2 years I think we look fairly weak and Im a little worried! Last year we had class players outside the 17 and good competition for places, this year we've lost hoffman, coley, joel & deacon and have little significant quality to replace them.

Unless either we get some decent signings in, or the young lads currently in the 20s step up massively this year a'la saints last year, I think we will lose some serious ground on wire.

Last seaon Wigan and Wire were one or two divisions up from the rest of the league for the majority of the season but I see us dropping back into a league with saints, leeds, and huds fighting for a distant second unfortunately.....yes we may do a Leeds and get lucky at the end of the season but cant see us being anywhere near wire at the top next year who will walk the league by about 6-8 points IMO! We will lose games down the right hand side i fear which could become turnstylesque next year!



Frankly we need a top class centre but leneghan has obviously decided to not get his hand in his pocket judging by his comments and I think that, with massive losses in the pack, will see us lose a massive competitve edge next season.

Also McIllurum as seemingly the only first team hooker in the squad if it appears tommy is back to 7 is not far from suicide IMO. McIllurum simply isnt good enough to control a game as 1st choice hooker - interchange yes- starting hooker is a big no no!

I fear the season could rest on whether Mellor or Tomkins junior are good enough to make a massive step up to being first team regulars, giving us options in the middle, and Roberts miraculously returning to start of the season 2010 form and plugging the right wing with Charnley centre.

Interesting times but I fear we've lost too much all at once again - it will certainly be a year of transition!

Going of that id say we're a decent outside bet to retain the challenge cup but we've suddenly gone from being odds on to win everything to being one of 4/5 decent teams at the top with a reasonable chance!

Looks like we will be relying alot on the kids if we get any injuries. Im fine with that to be honest, really looking forward to see how they do in Super League. Its time for players like Joe Mellor, Ryan King and Logan Tomkins to stand up and show what they can do.

+1.... Going to be very interesting to watch the youngsters develop.

If Goulding and Charnley is your starting right edge, it's gonna be turnstile central. I think you will bring somebody in though. Great to see a team with so many academy products.

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I know it's something Warrington started the ball rolling on a few years back. I think Wigan were the first to start the trend in the 90's, then Leeds took it up a notch in the 00's. Wigan then went through a spell of wasting money on big name aussies(Wire also), now have gone back to producing their own. I hope Warrington can have a similar amount in a few years time.

Made up for Prescott and Mossop. They've worked so hard these past couple of years to establish themselves in the side and they get a reward there. They're both going to be the cornerstone of our pack for a good number of years and should go on to be the same at international level as well.

As for the other numbers I wouldn't read too much in to Goulding getting the 3 shirt. They have to give it to somebody because if they left it free it would just make everyone go in to overdrive speculating about a signing that probably won;t happen.

The only number I have a problem with is Hock getting the 12 shirt. I'm not sure he warrents that tbh. I think he's a great player but he did let the club down 2 years back and again on his return with a moment of madness at Wire. He needs to put in a big pre season, keep his head down and prove himself on the field (which i think he will do by the way).

I'd have give Farrell the 12 shirt. He's going to have a huge season in 2012 imo. He suffered a touch of 2nd season syndrome last year but showed some positive signs near the end and will rip it up this time around.

Looks a significantly weaker squad than last year on paper, both in depth and quality.

Hasn't Goulding had the #3 shirt before?

With that in mind, I wouldn't read too much into it

Yeah he wore #3 in Nobby's last season in charge

goulding and hock not good enough for starting jerseys for mine. hope to be proved wrong.

Come off it, Hock's definitely good enough. I think he'll be 10x better than last season after getting a full pre-season with Wane, Bitcon etc behind him. Peope expected too much of him after he returned last year, and we only saw anywhere near his best in flashes.

I wouldnt read too much in to these squad nos either tbh, he had to name them and it was easier to leave 3 numbers out of the 1-17 slots empty rather than earmark it for a potential replacement who then doesnt turn up. Wane hasnt even got them all back yet, after a few weeks of training he might decide he likes the look of Charnley at 3 with Amos/Goulding outside him. I wonder if it would be better for us not to have squad numbers and just do it like the Aussies do?

I'd have given Lima a starting shirt over Prescott but it doesn't matter at the end of the day. They are both fantastic players and will get a lot of game time regardless of their numbers

I can`t believe some of the negative comments that have been posted already. Let`s give everyone a chance. We shouldn`t be crticising players 3 months before the SL starts!

In terms of which props will start the game, I am sure it will be the same as it has been in the past, that is selection may well be influenced by the starting props for the opposition.

i dont agree with sqaud numbers if some one is handed the 1-13 number at the beging of the season its basically telling the player you dont need to earn it week in week out. All the players should go to work on a monday as say right time to earn my place and put the graft in. i understand it as marketing benift for the fans shirts but if i wanted lima on the back of my shirt i would just get him with either 8 or 10.