bloke behind me was saying feka was rubbish,think lima is worse in 2 games lima was on his backside never saw feka do that when taking the ball forward plus you noticed feka playing i have hardly noticed lima play most times

twice the player feka ever will be, end of. You notice Feka playing due to the amount of missed tackles he made. Semi Cup final v Wire for example.

Feka is twice the player Lima is, quite literally.

Feka was noticed because he would make the odd barnstorming run. Lima does twice the amount of work that Feka ever did and isn't anywhere near as much of a liability in defence.

Lima will improve and I am convinced that we will see the best of him next season as we did with Craig Smith.

Feka was a liability. Missed tackles and could only manage low minutes due to fitness issues. I can't believe people see a few barnstorming runs and miss the fundermentals of why he needed to go.
Lima has a far better more well rounded game.

Correct, as soon as he came back on in the second half Lima took two of the five hit ups. He than followed that with two tackles in the next Quins set.

As I have said previously if you look at the stats he makes more metres than any other Wigan prop.

Limas defence rate is terrific. He does so
Much tackling he beats Feka hands down.

His attack will improve, he's here for three years.

Feka stood out more because his name was announced every 10 minutes to say he was coming off! Feka would make 1 run and then need about 20 minutes of rest! The size of him now he's at Salford shows he obviously doesn't care about his fitness. Lima was never going to be the barnstorming runner people were hoping he'd be and anyone who thought he would never really watched him play in the NRL. He might get knocked on his but he gets staright back up and in the line. Feka would run get tackled and then take a breather even when he's only just got onto the pitch.

He's a grafter and is getting better and better as he settles in.

Karl Pryce showed what he could and should be doing all the time in that one hit if he could be bothered. There was obviously a reason in letting him play last night and i'd guess that was so Maguire and Wane could see if he has any sort of future here at Wigan.

I'd hazard a guess they weren't impressed.

I like feka but he seriously was a weak link in our side. His defence was attrocious and he was constantly targeted due to his fitness. For me one of the major reasons we didn't go to wembley in 09 as monaghan ran rings around him in the semi.

Lima is twice the player, defends superbly and does make good yards. He is the grafter and the player who doesnt get all the plaudits. Give me that over 5 minute wonder every day!

In which case Solomona is four times the player Lima is.

Does he knock on when he's put on his backside though? Think of that one. He may take the fall because it takes the force away and if he stayed solid he may knock on.

Its all about preferences lets be honest. They both have their positives and negatives but are probably about equal. The question is do you want use very effective short blasts, or a longer lasting less powerfull option.

To put it in mathematical terms, you could rate the players on their attributes and compare their qualities.

Lima: Power 5 x Fitness 10 = 50

Feka: Power 10 x Fitness 5 = 50

Thats just my opinion though.

bit optomistic giving him 5 for fitness maybe he was at 5 early last season but towards the end deffo 3/4 and now hes gta b 2/3.

Yes but my point is Feka was as fit as lima is powerfull.

Solomona looks like he's eaten Feka

Cant understand this criticism of Lima, hes doing a great job, gets through plenty of work and makes the most meters. What more do you want from a Prop? Seems most Wiganers want a fat lazy guy who makes 4 good drives a match, cant tackle but hes obviously better because he loves the club loads and loads. Ridiculous.

watch Lima at the end of the match.......for some reason he trails along behind the main bunch waving and aplauding the speccies with a big grin on his face.............guys obviously loving it here.

as an aside.......was stalking players last niht for pics for my young uns birthday......nobody asked Lima for an autograph or a pic?????????????????..........................then again, nobody asked lockers

With fries !!!!!

I have to say though, despite Solomona looking like he's eaten Feka with a side order of Lee Crooks he is still a very effective player. God knows how he can be so fat considering he's meant to train so much.

Feka was a added extra into a champion side. He was found wanting many times in defence, he could make a couple of useful runs when he had gained his breath. He was a nice guy and got on well with the fans, but as a solid prop, probably one of our most unproductive over the last few years. Didn't see other teams queuing up when we let him go, dont see him posing a problem to us now. But Lima, I suspect a few teams would be looking and I wouldnt want to be playing against him.

Solomona struggled to get back to his feet without rolling to one side after his try against Castleford.

Everybody enjoyed some of the big runs by Feka. They were few and far between, he had trouble getting to his feet for a quick play the ball so a lot of times the line break was covered up, then again Danny Sculthorpe struggled to get his fat ass off the ground as well.

I prefer the leaner props that Wigan are using at the moment

Has anyone noticed how Solomona's torso is perfectly spherical? It's very impressive.