I've defended him so far, I think he's played ok in attack and defence and his pass for the last break against Leeds last week was quality.

But IMO tonight he was awful, especially in defence. To me he didn't look interested and looked reluctant to get involved, especially in the last twenty when others really got stuck in. To top it off at the end as the players came across to the East he stayed in the middle of the pitch and didnt acknowledge the fans. Not a massive deal I know but after that performance I felt it was a bit of an insult to the fans. For the record I thought we as a team were poor tonight, especially out wide. But a halfback who doesn't seem to want the ball is not much use to anyone. To me he doesn't appear to be a part of the team, maybe I'm just reading too much into it after a poor team performance and some awful defence. Thoughts?

Just like to add I thought Coley played well and made some good yards.

Edit: Catalans played very well and deserved the win, we were awful but they won the game through good rugby!

Finch wasn't the only one to be fair!

And he's still not fully fit IMO.

I don't know what else to say at the moment.

Finch is rubbish.

You really do come out with some crap sometimes... but on this occasion your right

You're right, he definitely wasn't the only one. But, with regards to him not being fully fit, I felt he'd gone backwards from his other performances.

Thats a first Donna. On the radio they said Catalans gave Wigan no chance. Must just be the Wigan blip time. We had ours at the start of the season and it looks like Wire are having theirs as well.

How can you say he isn't fully fit? A laughable excuse.

Class act is that bloke

We were bad all over the field in attack and defence, couldn't pass, catch tackle. Catalans were very good, but we were very bad.

Catalans were OK, but we made them look better than they were. That's the worst defensive display I've seen since the dark days of Noble. Cats were just walking through our tacklers almost at will. they didn't need to do anything special. Even Hoffman, normally Mr. Reliable, was missing them.

Excuse for what? That he wan't the only player to play crap tonight? Go find a mirror and have an argument with yourself, you'll find your intellectual equal!

Hoffman had a nightmare. I reckon he was at fault for 3 of their tries in the first half.

But before tonight, excellent.

If Noble was still in charge people would be up in arms that Finch was in the side whilst Joe Mellor is playing his socks off for the under 20's.

Why did you comment on his level of fitness if it wasn't an excuse?

Spot on.

A lot of peopel are. and there will be a lot more when they get from tonight's game, he was dreadful. Rather than Mellor, though, I'd prefer Sam back at #6 (and with better studs!)

I'd agree, Sam back to 6 is the best option. Just pointing out that Mellor's performances have been outstanding albeit at a lower level. I wonder what he has to do to get an opportunity when the team is under performing and the current halves don't seem to be working effectively.

I don't like to pick out a scapegoat or anything like that BUT.....

... if Madge means what he says about the best players playing and nobody has a place if they are not playing well... Finch should be dropped next week.

We miss Deacon bigtime!

You are an idiot, I said he wasn't the only one who played bad AND he wasn't fully fit. Note NOT because. There's a reason I ignore you and I've just remembered it, bye bye troll.

Oh dear, next week we may not be able to get 17 available men onto the field

So what if he wasn't fully fit? You must have had a reason for making this comment?

my mate watched finch a couple of times when he was in oz two and four years ago and said he didnt rate him that much then,he also watched hoffman and said he was quality so some work out well over here and others dont and tbh we have had our fair share of crappy imports so this post is in no way meant as a dig,just a general observation and btw we were garbage tonite as well!!!

from what iv seen of him so far he is bad! defence is rubbish he seems to fall off most and he seems to be out of posistion alot. his attack is even worse!he seems obssessed to give it hoffman at every chance and when he doesnt he sticks a horrible flat ball out for some else. since hes come into the team we look all over the place in attack. deacon cant come back soon enough for me and failing that sam has to go back to 6 and he should be made to earn his posistion in the reserves!

also it makes you wonder now why daniel anderson told him he could find a new club when he took over at paramatta!

You get the feeling that Madge doesn't really know what to do with Finch, Tomkins and Lulu. We also seem to be missing Deacs an awful lot which is a bit worrying.

Nothing wrong with Finch in my opinion. He's still settling into the team. He wasn't the reason we got hammered today - our inability to tackle, hold onto the ball, and catch the bomb (and it was team wide) were.

I still think our best combination is Finch, S. Tomkins and Leuluai at hooker. It's night and day with Leulaui playing #9 - lifts the whole team going forward.