do you think the bullying of sam tompkins near enough every time he got the ball got on joel tomkins nerves and thats why joel had iz back up.

It appears that you're a Wigan fan, so spell their f*cking surname correctly

who are sam and joel tompkins?

I never understand where this silent P comes from in Tomkins???

Nothing to do with treatment of Sam, Joel had a complete brain fart and got what he deserved for his stupidity / petulance

Who are Joel Tompkins & Sam Tompkins, I personally i thought it was Tomkins they have been in the side long enough for Wigan fans to know their names its irritating when opposition fans refer to them as Tompkins.

Hull came with $hithouse tactics and bad refereeing made is spill into the fracas. He should of binned a Hull player earlier and binned both Yeaman and Joel for the initial fight.

Yeaman should have got 10 mins. He punched Joel first the soft .

Twenty minutes left, Wigan four points down.

Large fight involving Joel, Yeaman and Briscoe on the Hull 40 metre line. Penalty Wigan, tap and pass to Joel...he runs the ball in elbow raised into Fitzgibbon, causing another brawl, straight red and penalty to Hull.

Could have cost us the game that. Stupid of him but I think Ganson had lost the plot all through the game......Willie Manu warned three times his tackling methods...nowt done.

Poor reffing.

i was sat right behind it and seemed to me first contact was yeamans chest to be honest kind of like the big shots sam burgess was putting in a couple of years ago just a two arm smash

Who thought it was a good idea to let Joel have the first run in after that punch up?

Whoever it was they were as thick as him.

I thought Joel spoiled what had been a decent showing by him with that. He's really got some form back in the past couple of weeks but he looks like he'll miss a few games now.

Lets hope Joel gets a long ban for leading with the elbow, and then has to spend time in the U20s until he gets another go in the first team. His indiscipline was one of the reasons we didn't see the game out against Stains and could easily have cost us two today. If I was an opposition coach I'd wind him up all match because it's only a matter of time before the brain fart happens, one of which some day is going to cost us a huge game unless he grows up.

Manu was doing a good job at P***ing Joel off too ,

Joel was a total idiot, im sorry totally unacceptable what he did not really from how bad it was as we see leading with the elbow lots of time the the position of the game 0 tackle, 4 points down etc, in some ways im not too bothered if he get a long ban hes not been playing that well this year and we have lots of cover in his position

Manu got away with a number of attacks on sam, im pretty sure agar took the view that the risk of being sin binned, sent off or suspended didnt outweighed the benefit of attacking sam especially once deacon went off

he didnt lead with the elbow
i bet you if the previous dust up hadn't of happened it wouldnt of even been penalised

Thought it was THUMPKINS !

Glad to see nobody is trying to justify what he did! Just plain idiocy!! When he gets banned he will find it very hard to get back into this team, Tuson will be licking his lips!!

Is Sam tomkins not allowed to be tackled ?

Pretty much my thoughts apart fom the long ban thing. Sending off sufficient for me. However Joel is far too easy to wind up and i think there are a lot of people out there that are wise to this now. He really needs to sort this part of his game out because it will cost us big time at some point.

For me he raised his elbow during the 2nd contact but he raised his elbow straight after the fight. Made Gansons job easy but a Hull man should of been binned earlier for the 4 tackles they were done for on Sam.

i am as i said before initial contact was in chest
u see 3 or 4 of them 2 arm smash in defence every game y cant he do it with ball in hand

The tackles on Sam were getting to Joel a bit I think. I sit near the dug-outs and could see Joel chomping at the bit and clenching his fists etc as if he couldn't wait to get on and put it about a bit. Others around me noticed too and you could only see one thing happening from that point.

If the tackle's legal, yes. When, like today, they're constantly around the neck, or while he's in the air after fielding a kick, then no.

Ganson warned Manu repeatedly, but bottled out.

Yeamen should have been spending 10 mins in the bin for throwing three punches at Joel.

Might be an idiot, but I'd go far as say that whole incident actually made us decide to take control of the game. Without that happening, we would have just plodded on and lost.