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| Too small.
I would much prefer someone like Richards at FB. Able to take the high bombs and return the ball safely.
ST may be a more attacking option but I prefer safety at FB.
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| Disagree entirely. Think tonight showed me he can be a fantastic fullback. Put his body on the line time and time again, last line of defence was quality imo, read the game very well and shepherded a few kicks into touch.
A mistake late in the game after being targetted by thugs all evening is not bad going!
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| I don't think he's too small at all. Considering he was clearly targeted all game I thought he did well. It just wasn't the conditions for his attacking flair to shine. It made me smile when Brian Noble said the conditions would probably suit Wigan
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| Each to their own, but imo it's not his best position (and I admit I have changed my mind on this), and imo there are better options for that position.
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| He gets more involved at fullback than he seems to do when in the halves and he has the courage needed for a fullback, not to mention the rugby brain. I thought he looked quite good there.
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| couldnt disagree more. i was just laughing at all the posts people made before they had ever seen sam play FB, saying how he would be awful there, and how much of a mistake it would be, it would ruin him and so on.
In my opinion, he has been as good, if not better at FB, being able to come into the attack in a wider position, and when he wants to.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Too small.
I would much prefer someone like Richards at FB. Able to take the high bombs and return the ball safely.
ST may be a more attacking option but I prefer safety at FB.'"
He dwarves many top fullbacks, Billy Slater makes him look like a giant!
When it came to taking the high balls I though Sam was fantastic tonight.
Richards is awesome under the high ball too but lacks the creativity at 1 that Tomkins and Roberts have.
The dropped ball was very little to do with his physical stature it was a great tackle from Burrows to hit right under the ball carrying arm, in those conditions very tough for him to hold on to it.
A work in progress but still has great potential.
Would prefer to see him at 1 next year if we can sign a specialist 9 to replace Piggy.
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| Tomkins was fantastic under the high kicks tonight and he has done well defensively so far at full back. The aspect of his play that I dont like is that for me he isnt creative enough at full back. He seems to chime into the line but nearly always goes himself, even when overlaps are on, and doesnt set things up outside him in the way that Roberts does. If he varied his game more in attack he would be much better.
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| Tremendous player. Patrolling the goal line, made me think of Radlinski and I am sure that Kris will have been coaching him. Lets just count our blessings that we have a home grown player of his calibre
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| Sam was superb at Full Back tonight (ignoring the dropped ball which is just one of those things).
He was solid in defence all night, and did well to still be on the field such was the treatment he received from Ablett and Bailey.
He loses no freedom in attack or creativity at 1 either.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Too small.
I would much prefer someone like Richards at FB. Able to take the high bombs and return the ball safely.
ST may be a more attacking option but I prefer safety at FB.'"
Shaun Edwards was a a substitute full back before half back, if you'd like to draw that comparison
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| Sam has been excellent at Fullback the past two games especially, his attacking contribution seems even better given the space at 1, and his defence is excellent (just look at Peacock's break through, it was Sam's first hit in the tackle that allowed the other players to complete, JP didn't drive over him like you'd expect)
And Billy Slater is 5'10", Sam Tomkins is 5'10", Billy just has more mass on him - but that's the 27 year old Billy Slater, not the 21 year old one like Sam
He's a great player who will excell pretty much anywhere he gets played - for me the modern fullback role is offering him even more of an opportunity to contribute and develop.
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| Sam was fantastic, he will be fantastic where ever he plays, just 1 mistake in those conditions tonight after everything they bombed at him is brilliant. That tackle on Kylie in 1st half was superb for a man thats 'too small' on a big fat prop 5 mtrs away from the try line
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| Gotta say i disagree with the original post, Ok so he isn't the tallest fullback in the world, which might at somepoints give him a disadvantage but for that one disadvantage there is a lot of advantages, the balls he showed tonight where unreal, especially after the hit off ablett to carry on like he did in such a big game showed balls and nerves of steel.
Also playing him there i feel gives us that extra dimension going forward.
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| I don't like Sam tomkins(or Joel) but I can't deny what a player he is, great in attack, tackle anything, pace and the heart of a lion but IMO he ain't a fullback.
If saints play Wigan again this year I'm more than happy for him to play fullback, I think Leeds had him a little rattled today with kicks and roughed him up.
I'm not saying he won't make good fullback because he will but I think he is better stand off IMO.
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| Quote ="St pete"I don't like Sam tomkins(or Joel) but I can't deny what a player he is, great in attack, tackle anything, pace and the heart of a lion but IMO he ain't a fullback.
If saints play Wigan again this year I'm more than happy for him to play fullback, I think Leeds had him a little rattled today with kicks and roughed him up.
I'm not saying he won't make good fullback because he will but I think he is better stand off IMO.'"
Thought he dealt with everything Leeds threw at him very well. Made the right call on every kick he had to defend despite Leeds tactic of trying to take him out. I credit Burrow for the dropped ball rather than criticise Sam.
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| Quote ="St pete"I don't like Sam tomkins(or Joel) but I can't deny what a player he is, great in attack, tackle anything, pace and the heart of a lion but IMO he ain't a fullback.
If saints play Wigan again this year I'm more than happy for him to play fullback, I think Leeds had him a little rattled today with kicks and roughed him up.
I'm not saying he won't make good fullback because he will but I think he is better stand off IMO.'"
I think Leeds went out of their way to rattle him (they even had one guy trying to break his jaw).....and failed miserably.
He's as safe as houses back there and he provides something few others do in attack.
That said I'm not sure I like him there long term.
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| Quote ="P-J"I think Leeds went out of their way to rattle him (they even had one guy trying to break his jaw).....and failed miserably.
He's as safe as houses back there and he provides something few others do in attack.
That said I'm not sure I like him there long term.'"
I agree, leeds tried put s tomkins off his game.
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| Quote ="Robbo"Gotta say i disagree with the original post, Ok so he isn't the tallest fullback in the world, which might at somepoints give him a disadvantage but for that one disadvantage there is a lot of advantages, the balls he showed tonight where unreal, especially after the hit off ablett to carry on like he did in such a big game showed balls and nerves of steel.
Also playing him there i feel gives us that extra dimension going forward.'"
I also disagree with the OP.
The highlighted bit means we can play Deacon in the halves which IMO is good.
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| Quote ="St pete"I agree, leeds tried put s tomkins off his game.'"
Nooooooooooo, you think?
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| Some balls on the lad, not even two minutes after Ablett's 'tackle' on him he was getting himself underneath another bomb despite being under massive pressure.
He's a class act no matter where he plays, a natural RL player.
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| Sam is one hell of a player, one hell of a competitor and has unbelievable guts and bottle. He's the best stand off in superleague and would be easily the best fullback in superleague if he stays there on a regular basis. He's just a freak of a player and we're so lucky to have him as are England.
I hope he has a big play off series and wins us a couple of big games because his talent warrents playing leading roles in big game victories.
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| Heart of a lion that lad and wigan through and through . We have a gem on our hands. He is outstanding wherever he plays
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| Quote ="SFW"Some balls on the lad, not even two minutes after Ablett's 'tackle' on him he was getting himself underneath another bomb despite being under massive pressure.
He's a class act no matter where he plays, a natural RL player.'"
Agreed. If a first class FB became availiable i would love to have Sam free to play in any of the back positions, but have no problem with him at FB. Gifted player.
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