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| both come of age tonight pleased to see them both from the start they both deserve a crack at the Aussies
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| Smith will recall Myler and McGuire I reckon.
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| Pointless keeping a settled halfback pairing when you can change it for the 4th game on the trot for me
In all seriousness when Wigan played Saints in the league at Knowsley Road this year Eastmond and Tomkins were head and shoulders the best players on the pitch and i said that night it was so exciting for England to have these 2 lads available to them.
They can form an amazing halfback pairing for this country for years to come.
and the petty arguments aside we have another amazing talent in Myler. The halfback problems we've had seem to be over.
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| it was only on sky sports england v nz for 4 secs how many warriors fans notice that sam had tommy number 9 nz shirt. to swop shirts this must hope for a great warriors season next year as a great half back pair
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| Quote ="Bilko"Smith will recall Myler and McGuire I reckon.'" we are doomed !!!! if we do
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| Eastmond went absent in the second half.
Was he subsitituted ?
His try was pretty good.
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| Quote ="Bilko"Smith will recall Myler and McGuire I reckon.'"
If he does that sod England RL.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Pointless keeping a settled halfback pairing when you can change it for the 4th game on the trot for me
In all seriousness when Wigan played Saints in the league at Knowsley Road this year Eastmond and Tomkins were head and shoulders the best players on the pitch and i said that night it was so exciting for England to have these 2 lads available to them.
They can form an amazing halfback pairing for this country for years to come.
and the petty arguments aside we have another amazing talent in Myler. The halfback problems we've had seem to be over.'"
Both played excellent.
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| I thought both did ok but we was lucky that sinfield moved us around the field like he did.
The problem with eastmond and tomkins at this age is they can't take control of the game.
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| Quote ="moonlight flit"Eastmond went absent in the second half.
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You need to read the game, mate. I didn't see tries scored by England in the second half, did you? One was almost scored. If Shenton had managed to control his pass better then Hall would have been in. But other than that it was all defences.
So of course Eastmond was quiet. As was Tomkins. But both of them worked their butts off in defence, which is what the second half was all about.
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| If England win the final and Sam plays and perhaps gets MOM, could this season be ever surpassed for him?
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| Quote ="forestwood"it was only on sky sports england v nz for 4 secs how many warriors fans notice that sam had tommy number 9 nz shirt. to swop shirts this must hope for a great warriors season next year as a great half back pair'"
I am not the best at English ill admit, but i dont get this?
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| Quote ="Scotty Keeeeeeench"I am not the best at English ill admit, but i dont get this?
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There's nothing like a bit of punkchewashon.
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| Quote ="forestwood"it was only on sky sports england v nz for 4 secs how many warriors fans notice that sam had tommy number 9 nz shirt. to swop shirts this must hope for a great warriors season next year as a great half back pair'"
So they will have a great season because they swapped shirts?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You need to read the game, mate. I didn't see tries scored by England in the second half, did you? One was almost scored. If Shenton had managed to control his pass better then Hall would have been in. But other than that it was all defences.
So of course Eastmond was quiet. As was Tomkins. But both of them worked their butts off in defence, which is what the second half was all about.'"
Correct and one of the most impressive aspects of Tomkins and Eastmond is they are both very strong in defence. They don't come rushing out of the line and they get their man 9 times out of 10.
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| Quote ="cadoo"Correct and one of the most impressive aspects of Tomkins and Eastmond is they are both very strong in defence. They don't come rushing out of the line and they get their man 9 times out of 10.'"
Eastmond used to but he has really come on well in his defence. What amazes me about both of them, especially Tomkins, is their suicidal streak! They just fly in there, usually around the legs (which makes sense given the size differential), and hold on like limpets.
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| Quote ="cadoo"So they will have a great season because they swapped shirts?
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Think he's trying to say that there is a good relationship between them which can only make them better together on the field?
They do seem to be really good mates
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| They'll need to be better ball in hand next week. Demand the ball and take the line on more.
I thought Sinfield was brilliant at hooker first half and he let Sam and Kyle play, we scored 18 points. 2nd half Sinfield moved to loose forward and took first reciever meaning Sam and Kyle were a bit quiet, we scored 2 points.
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| It was a nice touch seeing the two teammates swap shirts. Lets hope they go on to bigger and better things under a proper coach.
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"They'll need to be better ball in hand next week. Demand the ball and take the line on more.'"
I think they will do that against the Aussies. You don't play the same game against one team than you do against another. You adapt accordingly. Last night in the second half it was all about defending our lead rather than taking risks out wide which could have resulted in dropped ball or interceptions. We did have one chance of a try but Shenton couldn't get the ball out accurately enough to Hall due to pressure. Fair play to him for having a go anyway. Smith will have directed play in a different way in the second half to that of the first, which is fair enough since our aim was to get through to the final, not put 40 on the Kiwis.
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"They'll need to be better ball in hand next week. Demand the ball and take the line on more.
I thought Sinfield was brilliant at hooker first half and he let Sam and Kyle play, we scored 18 points. 2nd half Sinfield moved to loose forward and took first reciever meaning Sam and Kyle were a bit quiet, we scored 2 points.
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I've took lot of stick on the Saints site for suggesting Roby should be dropped and Carvell included next week.
If only O'Loughlin was fit I'd feel a bit more confident.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I've took lot of stick on the Saints site for suggesting Roby should be dropped and Carvell included next week.
I only O'Loughlin was fit I'd feel a bit more confident.'"
I have to agree with this.
I'm not exactly sure what Roby, and an out of form Roby at that, can bring to the party.
Carvell would be a good option, simply because the only way we are going to beat the Aussies will be to grind them to death down the centre of the pitch, with countless 4 or 5 drives and then a kick.
Also a few heavy downpours wouldn't go amiss around kick off time either...
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I've took lot of stick on the Saints site for suggesting Roby should be dropped and Carvell included next week.
If only O'Loughlin was fit I'd feel a bit more confident.'"
Lockers is a big miss I agree. If only Hock wasn't a numpty as well.
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| Smith as taken a lot of stick got to give him credit last night tactically he was spot on . Sinfield was awesome at hooker and Smith knew he had to put him there to take the pressure of Tomkins and Eastmund Roby wouldnt have done that. He got substituions right and was a good descion to include Westwood. Tom Briscoe hasnt done nothing wrong but Fox was outstanding last night our MOM behind Ellis. Bridgews defence was awesome a better inclusiion than Smith. Credit has to go to Tony Smith got it spot on last night what a team display . Imust agree with Tomkins at the beginning didnt rate him TBH but hes got everything pace,awareness,courage and hes good in defence the future looks quite good for England
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| Quote ="oggy123"Eastmund '"
It's Eastmond, not Eastmund.
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