Discuss.

I did not go but I would gather that it is true, judging by the scoreline!

Seriously no ranting on here though we are in the play-offs the comp starts next week!

Think You've said it all really.

Now then

Next week, Discuss!

And to the person who said Pryce had a nightmare on the other thread - No. Don't believe what your stupid friends tell you.

Pryce didn't have chance to do much but he tackled hard and didn't miss and took the ball in well a few times.

He was a pudding the last time he played TBH but he looks to improved a lot so lets get behind him eh?

I blame Riddell.

Totally agree, it's very unfair on Pryce to single him out and say he had a poor game, because as the result suggests everybody had a e game.

The sarcastic cheering was a disgrace. The lad made one mistake, which was all his centre to get outside of him so he could draw roberts and pass for hodgeson to score.

Still, why support a player when you can have a good old moan eh?

It seems tight on Pryce as some fans were jeering him at every opportunity (against Cas earlier on in the season I thought he played well, th last time he played he was shocking I will be honest) but today he went well, he looked as though he was hitting hard in the tackle and was trying hard when taking the ball in, a spell out on loan would do him the world of good, maybe Widnes for a few games at the start of next year?

And To be fair He did actually make the tackle - Roberts (And everyone knows that I think he's a good un so I'm not having a go here.) should have done a lot better, he got flat footed and let Dodgy get inside him.

As people have said, nothing great in his performance but not much wrong either.

I don't think people realise how much we miss him Brian.

gane was 6-4 when Mc went off, Tommy to 9 and before Mc gets back on we were unorganised, dropping balls all over the place, no direction, we had a centre & a LF playing half back and before he gets back on were 38 10 down!

We only have 1 x 6&7 at the club at the moment and seeing as the 6 wasn't playing you'd have thought he would have kept at Tommy there for some continuity!

We need Piggy Back, MM coming off the bench as apart from lack of match fitness he looked pretty good today when he was on, and Tommy & Sam at 6&7.

B0ll0x to this move Tommy to 9 stuff for this year, If he sees something on from dummy half then he can still go in there from 7 when he needs to ala Burrows.

It's bad enough chopping and changing when Sam&Tommy are playing with Gleeson to 6 or Lockers etc but now till end of season Leave em.

We've been for the last four weeks as well. These flat performances going into the POs are worrying me.

My thoughts on Pryce
He was no worse than many, Phelps had a nightmare. Roberts missed the tackle to let Hodgson in, then he beat Phelps easily.

Three Wigan players were hold of Lunt on the try line and let him get the ball down.


The fact that Huddersfield right wing (on the other side of where Pryce was defending) scored three tries may give you a clue to where some of the problems lay.

2 of them were from kicks. We are abysmal at defending kicks near to our line.

can't say i'm surprised we got smashed - we've been blowing hot and cold all year. Sounds like we missed Tomkins too. Without him, we're stuffed...

It seemed like you peaked for the Leeds game!! then looked not at your best in the semi!!

Carmont & Richards were targetted with short kicks behind them today 5 or 6 times and were truly awful dealing with them!
That again won't fit in with the "Popular" view but that's How I saw it.

PS

For the last 3 or 4 games prior to today Carmont and Richards have been targetted with grubber behind them and they are struggling to deal with them.

I reckon Sam is worth 12 points ( attack combined with defence) to Wigan every game he plays. I didn't think we could win without him but it was worse than I feared.

We were playing musical chairs everytime Michael McIlorum went off. We lacked organisation and structure.

We missed Sam Tomkins far more than Mark Riddell. The only thing we missed IMO from Riddell is just the organisation I.E not playing musical chairs after every sub.

We can't deal with kicks on the last tackle. A massive problem.

Our forwards were battered (shocker)

I thought Mike McIlorum was our MOTM.

Pat Richards kicks were shocking. 2 out on the full in succession.

Huddersfield were brilliant. A much better coached side than us.

We'll beat Castleford most likely next week but I can't see us getting further than that. We have finished 6th. Backwards from last year. Lost Gareth Hock and failed to strengthen in the forwards.

A new coach can only do so much. We need a couple of forwards for next season. If we don't get them we will do nothing next season.

The new coach could get alot more out of Feka and Fielden than Noble does and then we could be ok!

Really?....simple as that is it.

Phil Clark picked up on this in his pre game Vs Cas, we have conceded more tries to kicks than any other team this season,

Also Richards has been poor the past few weeks in defence,

We were doing ok then we made these subs:

Fielden on for Coley
Pryce on for McIllorum
Mossop on for Flanagan

all in quick succession, leaving this:

FB 21 Phelps
RW 2 Roberts
RC 20 Pryce
LC 4 Carmont
LW 5 Richards
SO 13 O'Loughlin
SH 22 Gleeson
P 8 Fielden
H 7 Leuluai
P 10 Paleaaesina
SR 16 Hansen
SR 24 Mossop
LF 14 Joel

That was where I knew we were going to go right downhill, we lose what little ideas we had in attack, giving them lots of possession to pile pressure on us. Presumably Sam Tomkins and Riddell will be back next week so we shouldn't be too bad.

I still fancy us to beat Castleford at home with Sam Tomkins and Mark Riddell back. Castleford only just beat Celtic Crusaders.

But then again if we show up like that we will get beat.

Put it this way. We will not get to the Grand Final.

Nothing to do with subs for me today - the simple fact some of our one-on-one tackling was powder puff was the problem. Felt like the team wanted to play Cas rather than Cats and decided there was little reason to put 100% in today.

Unfortunately we're nowhere near good enough to be able to turn it on and off when we want and next week looks like a banana skin waiting to happen.