It only takes one win to shut them up, I’m sure Noble will build on this win and we will gather momentum. If I’m wrong fair play Noble out! But I’m sure we are going up from this match onwards even though it wasn’t a stellar performance.

I think there is no doubt the Noble doubters are still here

I know because I'm one of em

Don't get carried away - its just one decent game compared to three poor ones.

Nevertheless I hope you are right and Wigan build on the win and Noble keeps selecting players based on form.

Nice to see Noble say it still wasn't a good performance and they are still not playing how they want to. Improvement is the key - but he has earned a week without too much criticism I believe.

Loads of doubts..Our defence is rubbish and we look clueless.. The young lads look a class act though..

i hope your right mate i really do but the the is a very big daubt still there with me ask me in a month lol

Course the Noble doubters are still here.

We were bloody awful tonight.

The youngsters did well but against a decent side tonight we'd have been tonked.

Doubts here still. We can do better - but is there any better out there

I don't know what it is but some teams in various sports such as Man United in soccer struggle to get started at the start of the season and will lose to "less superior" teams. I can only think the disruption is due to new arrivals from overseas settling in the area and into super league. If Noble can get the best out of these players we will be the force we have been hyped up to be.

What a crock. Based on the last 3 games I would agree but there is no evidence for that based on tonights performance. We defended well and 1 try apart were only breached by good rugby (or a knock on). Not saying all is rosy by any means but at least enjoy what was a distinct improvement. I hate the f*cking whinging Wiganers. Makes me ashamed to have to count myself among the same supporters.

we were awful in general......and thats down to nobby.

smiths a liabiliy in defence.......sam showed him how to tackle

riddell.....where do i start.
can anyone tell me how many tackles he made, cos i dint see many.
isnt it a hookers job to follow the play and tackle, tackle, and tackle again.??
hooker should always be close to top tackler.

Simply recognising that improvement (and lots of it) is needed, there is nothing wrong with that

Better than sticking your head in the sand pretending all is rosy as it is far from it

and I quote

so now we can add an inability to read to the list....

Sorry mate but your the crock, another very poor perfomance in defense and awful in attack until ST appeared, but keep clapping if you wish.

so that would be a win against a very solid Harlequins side. Yeah mate I'll keep clapping and enjoying my rugby. You can keep doing whatever it is you do...

there is a god finaly some 1 talking sence go an look at "thank you young guns an have a look at the person called phuzzy abusing my quotes

Quote the whole point please mate, the defense is my most worrying point, we are woeful in that respect as we have been for over 12 months and seem to be going downhill still.

As i've posted elsewhere - let's not get carried away. 1st half we were poor and Quins could have run away with it. Fair play to Tomkins, he was the best thing (apart from the win) to come from the game...

i think phuzzy is brian noble undercover !

I thought we were shaky in defence against an average team who work hard, Sam tompkins gave us direction and always wanted the ball but i think Ainscough is not 100% ready in defence, those two will have their games picked out for them rather than playing week in week out.

We'll be there or there abouts come the end of the season, plenty of improvement in us, I even put money on us as outight winners last week at 25-1.

What do you mean quote the whole point?

The defense was reasonably solid today and certainly an improvement on previous weeks. Our goal line defense, barring one occassion, was improved in particular by a large margin. Not perfect by a long way but certainly better than previous weeks. I don't like the '3 steps forward and hold' defense as I have posted elsewhere but we seemed to abandon this in the second half. Whether this was due to the players taking it into their own hands or Noble finally realising it doesn't work I don't know, but as long as we defend with the enthusiasm we did in the 2nd half and continue to improve week on week as we did this week from last I'll enjoy my rugby.

Moving along to the point I was actually making. This weekend we've seen losses for Saints, Bradford and Warrington...alll against 'lesser' opposition while Wigan go away to Harlequins, traditionally a tough assignment for us, and come away with a win. After the doom and gloom of recent weeks I expected to come on here and actually see some positive, maybe even celebratory (

) posts on here. Of course I should have known better. Some Wigan fans couldn't enjoy a free night in a brothel!

Lost me now, don't get what your saying or what your point is

Doesn't surprise me.

You said it's better than burying my head in the sand and pretending all is rosy. If you bothered to read my post I said "Not saying all is rosy by any means".

Get it now?

funny that cause you was saying different in other posts

The defense is at sea mate, against Saints or Leeds we would leak 40+ points as we have done last season under the same structures and it still hasnt been sorted..whos fault..BN,,IL..Defense not only wins you matches it also wins you finals as me and you know..sort the defense and the rest will follow.

I didn't read all of your post because I believe what you say is a load of to be honest

I was drawn to the 'I hate the f*cking whinging wiganers' bit as the * made it stand out but I should of read the rest of it sorry

However if you think they are wrong for 'whinging' I think you are the one who is wrong as they are simply recognising that improvement needs to be made and it should be pretty obvious to you too?