I remember Lenegan saying when he first came to the club that he expected 20,000 average gates within a couple of seasons. Due to awful on-pitch activitis our crowds seem to have been affected. Roughly 14,000 and 12,000 for our first two home games and better followings than usual from both wakey and cas fans.

The club never announced the final amount of season ticket sales which tells me it was less than last season.
For those who pay on the day, Id imagine they are being put off by whats on show. Its a shame after the fantastic fan base we built up from mid 2006. I can only see them going one way now unfortunately

Has anyone on here decided to pick and choose games now? Or even stopped going at all

Youve got to remember weve played 2 of the worst teams at home. Wigan need a win next week and there will be over 16k against the Bulls.

Even if we win next week there will never be 16,000 on. Bradford wont bring the amount wakey or cas brought. Awful travellers. Infact awful fans full stop

The quality of our rugby even if we were winning isn't good enough to drag too many of the 'casual' fans in.

If we had a homegrown team with a licence to entertain yet it was abit hit and miss results wise we'd get more on then a side that grinds out wins in a boring fashion.

We're doing neither at the minute though so the only way is down!

This happens though, if we were winning, we may well see upto 20,000 averages, but people just dont want to go and watch a team that is not only not winning but playing boring rugby.

I still have a season ticket though and will make away games when I can.

The problem we have this year compared to 2006 with the support we get is that in 2006 we could of gone down so everyone got behind the team and it was great especially games like Leeds away. This year we could be bottom all season and anyone who doesnt have a season ticket would stop going as it doesnt matter.

Very true, they complain about not being able to get here but we took over 5000 to their place 2 years ago, we had more fans there than Bradford did.

I think the only team who brings more to our place than we take the theirs is Hull KR.

NOwt do with the quality of show, more to do with the ticket prices why I pick and choose my games. When I factor in the travel cost I am looking at £100 plus a game.

I think it's not just a problem for us, I think the general quality of RL has gone down. It's becoming more of a defensive based game overall, and it's not as entertaining.

And we may take equal or more had they a decent away end capable of holding more.

Got to credit Hull KR for the support they have brought to the JJB in recent seasons.

If you lived in East Hull you would want to get away.

I think if people can see some of the youngsters being given plenty of 1st team action, like Ainscough, Mossop, Tomkins our crowds would get better even we lose a few. Fans want to see these players get regular 1st team action, not just for a few minutes here and there, but for full games to get the experience they need.
Give the fans what they want and they will go to games

Dont be daft , no relegation will not affect attendances , Richard said so

Yeah we genuineley beleived we could be making trps to Batley and Dewsbury.

Relegation should be brought back!

Whatever.

The Super League would never have allowed Wigan to be sent down. Simple economics dictated that.

I pay on the day these days, but I'd still attend matches no matter what. I love rugby, and I love matchdays as a social experience just as much as I love to see the games, so it's not putting me off going.

I can imagine how it would put some off, though.

tell you what it felt colder an really empy last week against cas 12500 what a load of rubbish then ppl started leaving on 53 mins they prob missed the best bits wigan produced

its as plausable to blame the recession as the dour rugby.

They will bring more than usual with it being on a Saturday night. 16,000 is easily achievable if we win next week.

Only if all clubs are equally affected. FWIW I'm told our break even attandance is 12000.

Your having a joke with Northern bringing fans

Did anyone else notice 1 of the lounges at the top of the West Stand was closed?

3 losses, falling attendances and lack of corporate sales......

They will bring more than they do for a Friday game, thats a FACT.

They will but I'm struggling to think of a match over the last half decade or so that we drew 16k to a Bradford Bulls game.

14k IMO would be the absolute maximum we will draw at the moment.

Well I didnt renew due to the fact it was an extra £140 for my family season ticket this year, so I have decided to pay on the day.

There is a problem with doing this though and that is when you look at the fixtures eg Cas at home on Friday and you have to pay £52 for the family you think to yourself sod it I cant afford that plus this is not entertainment ant more so I will stay in have a few beers and watch the match on sky !!