I have kept this separate from the other thread, to keep the focus on this aspect of the debate.

Update:

[uLAND REGISRTY[/u

I spoke to the Land Registry this morning, and they have directed me to the relevant form to complete and send off, and have told me what I need to ask for. I will send off later today with the £6 admin fee.


[uCOUNCIL[/u

Very VERY helpful so far. I spoke to the Democratic Services department, who need to search their ledgers, for the dates when planning permission was discussed and passed for the JJB. When they have the relevant dates (which I have been promised will be today), they will copy the minutes for me, and I can go and pick them up/or they will post them. I should get them tomorrow at the latest.


[uFUNDING[/u

Next steps for me today is to contact the relevant funding authorities. I think Sport England gave a grant. If anyone knows any different/any other, please let me know.


Mods, should we make this a sticky?

From what i recall it was sport England and also a grant from the council. will have a word with my Father in law tomorrow when he is back he was quite high up in Wigan metro planning at the time

Thanks Donna, great detective word and would like this thread to be kept seperate from other ramblings.

Really want to find out what basis this permission was granted.

The planning permissions themselves should contain the planning conditions on which the PP is granted, so look out for PP reference numbers and get copies of them from the Council. It's highly likely that a s.106 Agreement will have been entered into between the Council and the stadium company as well, which will contain obligations that the stadium company has to satisfy so look out for references to that too.

This is pretty regular stuff for me so PM me if I can help, Donna.

Good thread, common sense and logic. whatever next!, well done so far keep up the good work!

OK, Sport England [uDID NOT[/u provide any funding. They advise I speak to the Economic Development dept at the Council, which I have done, and I am waiting for them to get back to me with details of the funding partners.

Cheers Viki, may PM you when I get the minutes.


D

Well in girl.
Keep up the good work and keep ua all informed.

If I can be of any help when I gat back from Perpignan let me know by pm.

Well done donna keep up the good work



Thing is if a fan can do this why is no one at the club?

Who says no-one at the club hasn't done it? They might have had a look into it already and come up with bugger all. But fingers crossed that's not the case

maybe they have and the info they found wasn't what they had hoped for?

not knocking what your doing Donna, i think its great. just dont forget you might not find the answer you want!

Have no preconceptions about what might be found. I just think we all need to know definitively, what the status is.

agreed

ive just got a funny feeling that it will lead to us getting shafted by the pathetics somewhere down the line

Hasn't that happened indirectly already?

it has indeed and it woudlnt surprise me to see it backed up in black & white and possibly to a greater extent than re-arranging 1 match

Well in Donna, Great initiative.

If I can help in anyway please let me know.

The VERY helpful lady at Wigan council has rang to say she has found the minutes of the planning meeting and is posting them to me tonight!

Just waiting for the funding details now.

All public disclosures (from either side) have been along the lines of a 50:50 split dual use of the stadium. I highly doubt that there would be any one party favoured which is why its important we find that informaiton.

Apologies here Donna, just put this straight for me. Are we talking about the planning meeting prior to the JJB being built or the meeting Connor the Warrior's cousin, who is a big part of the Council apparently claims took place recently between Whelan, the Wigan board and Council about Leigh's ground.

i just dont trust DW

Donna,

couple of points that hopefully help.

1. I think the Football Foundation gave grant help to the JJB Stadium. The FF is partly funded by Sport England and Central Government so should therefore come under the Freedom of Information Act.

2. Ask the Council to send you electronic copies of everything rather than hard copy, even if it means they have to scan old documents. that way you don't have to plough through loads of info yourself and can spread the workload a bit. Happy to read through anything.

Is that so you can snitch to Whelan, Agent Andy?

I am not at liberty to divulge that information.

This post will self-destruct in 5 seconds.

once i get back from france i will go and get my central park folder from my parents loft.
That has everything that was public at the time ~ and a lot of stuff that wasn't!

Your welcome to make use of it.
Pm me to sort it out.

I sent an email to Brian Simpson Wigan's Euro Mp Earlier today asking nearly the same questions Whose land was it built on [i am led to believe its Council Property Was the Planning application for joint usage. How was the JJB funded ie,Council ,Lottery,EEC,Sports Council etc or Whelan Himself .No doubt it will take time to get back to me as it will have to be researched. Brian Simpson came out publicly to decry Whelan in the press and on the radio. [urlhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/2778310/Dave-Whelan-treating-Wigan-Warriors-supporters-like-second-class-citizens---Rugby-League.html[/url He has also stated that he has had a lot of hate mail from Latics fans but none from Wigan Warriors fans email to thank him briansimpson.labour@virgin.net

I sent an email to Brian Simpson Wigan's Euro Mp Earlier today asking nearly the same questions Whose land was it built on [i am led to believe its Council Property Was the Planning application for joint usage. How was the JJB funded ie,Council ,Lottery,EEC,Sports Council etc or Whelan Himself .No doubt it will take time to get back to me as it will have to be researched. Brian Simpson came out publicly to decry Whelan in the press and on the radio. [urlhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/2778310/Dave-Whelan-treating-Wigan-Warriors-supporters-like-second-class-citizens---Rugby-League.html[/url He has also stated that he has had a lot of hate mail from Latics fans but none from Wigan Warriors fans email to thank him briansimpson.labour@virgin.net