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| Stolen from the Leeds board!
Player: Metres - Carries (MT/Carry) - Tackles - Misses (Efficiency %) - Errors - Penalties
Wigan: 1381 - 219 (6.31) - 316 - 20 (94%) - 13 - 9
Tomkins S: 181 - 23 (7.87) - 8 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 1
Goulding: 88 - 12 (7.33) - 8 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 1
Tomkins J: 107 - 15 (7.13) - 12 - 2 (86%) - 0 - 0
Carmont: 83 - 11 (7.55) - 24 - 1 (96%) - 1 - 0
Roberts: 40 - 11 (3.64) - 3 - 3 (50%) - 0 - 0
O’Loughlin: 50 - 14 (3.57) - 22 - 2 (92%) - 1 - 1
Leuluai: 161 - 26 (6.19) - 16 - 3 (84%) - 2 - 1
Coley: 57 – 12 (4.75) - 14 - 2 (88%) - 0 - 1
McIlorum: 81 - 9 (9.00) - 22 - 2 (92%) - 1 - 1
Prescott: 79 - 13 (6.08 ) - 16 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 0
Hansen: 71 - 11 (6.45) - 20 - 2 (91%) - 2 - 0
Hoffman: 61 - 11 (5.55) - 35 - 2 (95%) - 1 - 1
Farrell: 96 - 10 (9.60) - 32 - 0 (100%) - 1 - 0
Finch: 42 - 13 (3.23) - 14 - 1 (93%) - 1 - 0
Mossop: 94 - 14 (6.71) - 19 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 0
Tuson: 14 - 3 (4.67) - 16 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 1
Lima: 76 - 11 (6.91) - 35 - 0 (100%) - 0 - 1
Try Assist:
Thomas Leuluai (Joel Tomkins Try)
Sam Tomkins (Sam Tomkins Try)
Sean O’Loughlin (Darrell Goulding Try)
No assist awarded for the Paul Prescott try.
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| In the whole team stats it looked like we matched/outplayed them at everything
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| Quote ="W!64N_ENTHUSI45T"In the whole team stats it looked like we matched/outplayed them at everything'"
I agree.
On the basis of those figures, it's difficult to see how they even got close to us, let alone crabbed a draw.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I agree.
On the basis of those figures, it's difficult to see how they even got close to us, let alone crabbed a draw.'"
Making more than double their efforts on Clean Breaks and Tackle Busts makes you wonder how we didnt register more points
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| For 17 mins we cut them to pieces and then for some reason lost respect for possesion and put ourselves under pressure, by handing the ball back to them time and time again. Midway through second half we seemed to get our sensible heads back on, controlled the ball and caused Leeds all sorts of problems again.
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| Those stats tell me that while we were dominant in almost every area of the game.... we were not clinical enough untill Sam set the trent for turning our dominance into points for that final quarter.
I have no doubt that with a half decent kicking game and fewer errors we could have walked all over Leeds.
Just not clinical enough in attack at the moment.
The stat that stands out to me is tackle busts. 40 in one game! That is a couple every set of 6 and it shows just how hard Prescott and Mossop were running the ball in and Hansen as well. I believe that is what made the impact so we could dominate at the end of the game. The Leeds pack were clearly feeling it.
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| Roberts: 40 - 11 (3.64) - 3 - 3 (50%) - 0 - 0
Bloody hell did Amos cover his hands in butter before the game?
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| For those still disappointed with Lima, compare his stats to Prescott's, who's had pretty good reviews in the threads. 35 tackles, with none missed, is an outstanding effort for a prop.
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| Quote ="Geoff"For those still disappointed with Lima, compare his stats to Prescott's, who's had pretty good reviews in the threads. 35 tackles, with none missed, is an outstanding effort for a prop.'"
He is always involved.
Feka used to come on for his time on the pitch and would do a few runs and big hits but not enough of them.
Lima comes on and works hard for the whole time he is on the pitch!
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| Quote ="Geoff"For those still disappointed with Lima, compare his stats to Prescott's, who's had pretty good reviews in the threads. 35 tackles, with none missed, is an outstanding effort for a prop.'"
To be fair if you're on the field when we're defending more you'll make more tackles, if you're on the pitch when we're attacking most of the time and playing much better (as Prescott was) then you'll make very few tackles.
To make so many tackles and not miss a single one is impressive, although I wonder how many of those tackles he was third man in.
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| Lies damn lies and .......... (complete this sentence!!).
The stats do not tell the story of this game. They're interesting - if only because its amazing that we are level pegging or better than leeds in almost every area and played 2nd fiddle for 70% of the match. Just goes to show stats taken in isolation are not worth the paper they are written on. As for Lima, have to agree his work rate is impressive and frankley its the only measure we have in regard to his performance because he's hardly ripping it up is he? If we have to go to Aussie to bring in a work horse prop on somehwere between £140 - £160k (guessing) then its a poor show. I dont care how good his stats are, he needs to offer more, and he needs to steer clear of the judiciary for more than a 2 week period.
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| Quote ="Geoff"For those still disappointed with Lima, compare his stats to Prescott's, who's had pretty good reviews in the threads. 35 tackles, with none missed, is an outstanding effort for a prop.'"
Yes not bad for a player who will be spending at least a quarter of the season in the stands, he's a liability...end of
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| Quote ="hatty"Yes not bad for a player who will be spending at least a quarter of the season in the stands, he's a liability...end of'"
Even if that were true - which I sincerely doubt - it's still considerably less time than Feka would be spending on the bench.
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| I imagine Madge and Wane wont be too happy with Amos Roberts' stats and Andy Coley's for that matter. Liam Farrell and Lee Mossop continue to shine. I wonder how much game time Chris Tuson got?
Team for me next week:
1. Amos Roberts
2. Darrell Goulding
3. Joel Tomkins
4. George Carmont
5. Pat Richards (woo!)
6. Sam Tomkins
7. Brett Finch
8. Paul Prescott
9. Mike McIlorum
10. Andy Coley
11. Harrison Hansen
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I agree.
On the basis of those figures, it's difficult to see how they even got close to us, let alone crabbed a draw.'"
We were dominate for the first 15 minutes and should have had a couple of tries on the board. The last 15 we dominated also. Just the middle part where we sort of let it fall apart.
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| Quote ="hatty"Yes not bad for a player who will be spending at least a quarter of the season in the stands, he's a liability...end of'"
I agree with the argument about his disciplinary issues. He clearly needs to sort this. However, he is playing well when he is on the pitch.
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| Coley's stats are a bit surprising.
Not often he fails to average 5m per carry.
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| Quite astonished at the team stats, in particular tackles bust, missed tackles and clean breaks. Although having started rewatching the game through, we wren't ad bad as I remember us being on Friday night.
Clarkey did a piece on the Wigan defense before the Wire game, on how Wigan are the best side at not being broken down the middle of the field. So whilst we were exposed a fair few times out wide, we weren't broken down the middle by Leeds.
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| Quote ="Guerrier"Coley's stats are a bit surprising.
Not often he fails to average 5m per carry.'"
know a member of his family and he said Coley was carrying an injury on Friday night so in the second half he literally only played the ten mins when Lima was sin binned. than might explain his low stats.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Quite astonished at the team stats, in particular tackles bust, missed tackles and clean breaks. Although having started rewatching the game through, we wren't ad bad as I remember us being on Friday night.
Clarkey did a piece on the Wigan defense before the Wire game, on how Wigan are the best side at not being broken down the middle of the field. So whilst we were exposed a fair few times out wide, we weren't broken down the middle by Leeds.'"
For the last two weeks we have conceded a lot of metres in the centre positions.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"For the last two weeks we have conceded a lot of metres in the centre positions.'"
I am sure Madge is aware of it & will sort it out starting this week
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| Quote ="cadoo"I imagine Madge and Wane wont be too happy with Amos Roberts' stats and Andy Coley's for that matter. Liam Farrell and Lee Mossop continue to shine. I wonder how much game time Chris Tuson got?
Team for me next week:
1. Amos Roberts
2. Darrell Goulding
3. Joel Tomkins
4. George Carmont
5. Pat Richards (woo!)
6. Sam Tomkins
7. Brett Finch
8. Paul Prescott
9. Mike McIlorum
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14. Liam Farrell
15. Lee Mossop
16. Jeff Lima (hopefully)
17. Thomas Leuluai'"
Behave. Probably third or fourth name on the team sheet every week.
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"Behave. Probably third or fourth name on the team sheet every week.'"
He is suggesting we use him as an impact hooker. I don't think he is doubting his ability.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"He is suggesting we use him as an impact hooker. I don't think he is doubting his ability.'"
And that's why he's wrong. TL as an impact player is a massive waste. If we line up like that I'll eat my hat.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"For the last two weeks we have conceded a lot of metres in the centre positions.'"
Given how good our defence has been recently, it's a bit of a worry the way Warrington split us around the edges to score and the way Leeds were almost splitting us at will in the same places during the first half.
I'm not sure what's going on there. I'm tempted to think that our sliding defence is working properly - or perhaps the other coaches have spotted a weakness they're able to exploit. We get a lot of bodies into the tackles around the middle, perhaps that's leaving us short out wide if the other side get a quick PTB?
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