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| [url=https://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2020-02-26-wells-kilner-loaned-to-toronto?fbclid=IwAR1XoZdQywFKWWInXCtTojlG1gFRpjZOQUVW8HNtHgYjuAhJ_ERVnaY7VUY1 Month Loan with immediate effect[/url
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| Shows where we’re at with squad depth, two quality young lads who have had good pre-seasons/reserves games.
Hopefully both get a run out on Saturday agains Saints on sky.
Good move
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| Great move. Give them much needed SL experience. I’m excited to see what they both can do, hopefully knock a few holes into saints defence.
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| This looks like a good move for both them and the club. I think they both have a future with Wigan, Kilner in particlular
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| Good move. I can see it being extended to a season long loan. They’ll get some valuable SL experience and come back as SL players which will benefit us hugely.
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| Maybe leaves us a bit light in the back row but it will be good for the players and is hopefully saving the club money. Surely Escare will be next.
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Quote ="MadDogg"Maybe leaves us a bit light in the back row but it will be good for the players and is hopefully saving the club money. Surely Escare will be next.'"
Re: Escare, it was confirmed that Ryan Hampshire broke his jaw yesterday for Wakefield (out for six weeks). Plus Arundel at centre out for the season ACL.
You never know. Two backs down, he'd be ideal for them again.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/51618499
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Quote ="MadDogg"Maybe leaves us a bit light in the back row but it will be good for the players and is hopefully saving the club money. Surely Escare will be next.'"
Re: Escare, it was confirmed that Ryan Hampshire broke his jaw yesterday for Wakefield (out for six weeks). Plus Arundel at centre out for the season ACL.
You never know. Two backs down, he'd be ideal for them again.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/51618499
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Quote ="MattyB"Quote ="MadDogg"Maybe leaves us a bit light in the back row but it will be good for the players and is hopefully saving the club money. Surely Escare will be next.'"
Re: Escare, it was confirmed that Ryan Hampshire broke his jaw yesterday for Wakefield (out for six weeks). Plus Arundel at centre out for the season ACL.
You never know. Two backs down, he'd be ideal for them again.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/51618499'"
I hope so - dont just want him to leave for the sake of the club either. He's definitely worthy of a starting spot in a SL side - he shouldn't be wasting his career playing reserves.
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Quote ="MattyB"Quote ="MadDogg"Maybe leaves us a bit light in the back row but it will be good for the players and is hopefully saving the club money. Surely Escare will be next.'"
Re: Escare, it was confirmed that Ryan Hampshire broke his jaw yesterday for Wakefield (out for six weeks). Plus Arundel at centre out for the season ACL.
You never know. Two backs down, he'd be ideal for them again.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/51618499'"
I hope so - dont just want him to leave for the sake of the club either. He's definitely worthy of a starting spot in a SL side - he shouldn't be wasting his career playing reserves.
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| I can see Kilner smashing it, looking forward to seeing how he goes in SL.
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| If Toronto play Kilner against Saints that's a big ask facing two of the best front rowers in SL.
Best of luck to him and Jack Wells.
Do them both good and won't do Wigan's long term planning any harm either.
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| Really happy with this. They’re both in need of the challenge and hopefully they will get plenty of game time.
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| My only reservation is if they are being expected to line up as front line forwards, particularly Kilner in a team that is getting a hiding each week.
They are both top prospects and expecting them to take on the workload of a seasoned pro in a struggling team may do more harm than good.
I’m sure the club have discussed role and workload as part of the move though and on the face of it a cracking life experience for the pair of them too.
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| Who will be paying their wages as i thought i read that Toronto were up to the limit on the salary cap or do loans of junior players not count?.
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| In fairness to them they’re sticking in games and haven’t been too far off. I don’t think they’ll go there and be expected to whack out 80 minutes. The chance for them to play alongside Sonny Bill must be exciting and it will hopefully prove a great experience for them.
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| With all these loan signings, not only by Wigan, what is the point of having a Reserve League.
Its now getting as bad as Football!
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"With all these loan signings, not only by Wigan, what is the point of having a Reserve League.
Its now getting as bad as Football!'"
Really don't see the problem. 2 lads with bags of potential move to a side playing Super League and you don't like it. Players like George Burgess who need match fitness can get the required game time in the reserves before transitioning back into the first team. It's win win all around
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| Quote ="MadDogg"I hope so - dont just want him to leave for the sake of the club either. He's definitely worthy of a starting spot in a SL side - he shouldn't be wasting his career playing reserves.'"
Or not even playing reserves like last week?
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| From what I have seen of Toronto so far, the only good experience Kilner and Wells being forwards are going to get is plenty of practice in tackling as the squad of the club with the exception is not much different than it was in last season's Championship apart from Sonny Bill Williams.
Been better for them to go clubs like Hull KR, Salford, Wakefield or even Featherstone, Leigh or Widnes in the Championship
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| Quote ="jonh"My only reservation is if they are being expected to line up as front line forwards, particularly Kilner in a team that is getting a hiding each week.
They are both top prospects and expecting them to take on the workload of a seasoned pro in a struggling team may do more harm than good.
I’m sure the club have discussed role and workload as part of the move though and on the face of it a cracking life experience for the pair of them too.'"
They’re not getting a hiding at all, they’re competing and don’t look too far off IMO. A hiding is getting 40-60 put on them every week, they look every bit a team that will pick up results along the season.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"They’re not getting a hiding at all, they’re competing and don’t look too far off IMO. A hiding is getting 40-60 put on them every week, they look every bit a team that will pick up results along the season.'"
Come on, the Toronto squad with the exception of two or three players or so is hardly any better than many of the lower clubs of the Super League or the top clubs of the Championship.
Unless, Toronto sign more better players than cast offs of our clubs, they will continue to make no big impact in our game which has already been proved by the poor crowds they so far have attracted at games here.
In the games so far, our clubs, including Wigan should have scored far more points than they did!
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| Kilner didn’t play but Wells got last 20 mins and put himself about , defence was solid and took a couple of hit ups . He looked a big unit compared to the rest of the Wolfpack
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| Their discipline makes ours look good
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| Admittedly I wasn't giving it my full attention as was cooking but from what I saw Wells looked impressive again in a well beaten Toronto team I thought. 9 metres average gain and took his try very well. How good to have all these exciting forward prospects.
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| I get the impression that Wells is making the most of his opportunity. Several posters on other sites have mentioned that although he has not had big minutes he is embarrassing some of his older and much more expensive team mates. We could end up with a bit of a problem in the forwards trying to find space for all of the youngsters.
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| I’d like to see Wells do a month or two with Toronto and then get him back here to fight for a spot. He’s a guy I’m convinced can make a big impact here and we’re short of competition in the second row, especially on that right side and with Greenwood not in Lams plans by the looks of things, I think he could really kick on here.
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