I don't think a clear out is needed. Let's look who's leaving:

Sarginson - Good, bloody awful yet again. Multiple knock ons and not one pass to Manfredi. Let him go now for me.

Charnley out for with Burgess coming in - an improvement (but only if he gets the ball).

I'm going to join the masses here but Matty Smith is simply not good enough for Super League never mind Wigan. Look at the difference with Leeds since they signed James Segeyaro. Smith needs to go but we are stuck with him until the 2018 season.

link: www.skysports.com/rugby-league/n ... n-warriors

We can't offload him as I doubt any club in SL are daft enough to take him.


With regards to the coaching staff, there needs to be a complete re-think.

Can we improve from where we are under Shaun Wane, I'm not talking about grinding results out as we have been doing. Our defence is pretty sound, can we be confident of taking to a field knowing we can put 30-40 points on the board? Wigan are struggling to score more than a try per half at the moment. I actually fear for us next week against Wakefield.

Shaun Wane's contract is up in Feb 2017, where a clause then triggers to an annual rolling contract.

Either give him some assistance (preferred option) or its time for a change.

I don't think a clear out is needed. Let's look who's leaving:

Sarginson - Good, bloody awful yet again. Multiple knock ons and not one pass to Manfredi. Let him go now for me.

Charnley out for with Burgess coming in - an improvement (but only if he gets the ball).

I'm going to join the masses here but Matty Smith is simply not good enough for Super League never mind Wigan. Look at the difference with Leeds since they signed James Segeyaro. Smith needs to go but we are stuck with him until the 2018 season.

link: www.skysports.com/rugby-league/n ... n-warriors

We can't offload him as I doubt any club in SL are daft enough to take him.


With regards to the coaching staff, there needs to be a complete re-think.

Can we improve from where we are under Shaun Wane, I'm not talking about grinding results out as we have been doing. Our defence is pretty sound, can we be confident of taking to a field knowing we can put 30-40 points on the board? Wigan are struggling to score more than a try per half at the moment. I actually fear for us next week against Wakefield.

Shaun Wane's contract is up in Feb 2017, where a clause then triggers to an annual rolling contract.

Either give him some assistance (preferred option) or its time for a change.

I've sobered up since last night but still totally convinced that KR and SW must go.
As I've said previously unlike the majority on here I believe that the vast majority of this squad are not good enough.
The Tierney disallowed try was a gimme but our backs just can't do the simple basics of the game.
SW seems to think that a bricklayer can lay bricks and know nothing about sand and cement.
I accept that a clear out in one season of 10 or more players isn't going to happen so I understand that the turnaround will take years and I for one wouldn't trust KR to change his socks let alone change the bulk of the squad.

I know SW and he won't change his methods indeed he will grow more and more it's us against the world approach.
It will get worse before it gets better.
The only change I can think of to try and improve our game is to move ST into the 6 shirt and put Williams at 7 with both players playing both sides of the park.
I've done now for the season and won't even bother with the Saints game later in the season. I have also cancelled my Wigan TV subscription for next year. IL is a businessman and he needs a nudge in his proverbials to get the message that fans will not put up with the shoite play and shoite management of the club.

I've sobered up since last night but still totally convinced that KR and SW must go.
As I've said previously unlike the majority on here I believe that the vast majority of this squad are not good enough.
The Tierney disallowed try was a gimme but our backs just can't do the simple basics of the game.
SW seems to think that a bricklayer can lay bricks and know nothing about sand and cement.
I accept that a clear out in one season of 10 or more players isn't going to happen so I understand that the turnaround will take years and I for one wouldn't trust KR to change his socks let alone change the bulk of the squad.

I know SW and he won't change his methods indeed he will grow more and more it's us against the world approach.
It will get worse before it gets better.
The only change I can think of to try and improve our game is to move ST into the 6 shirt and put Williams at 7 with both players playing both sides of the park.
I've done now for the season and won't even bother with the Saints game later in the season. I have also cancelled my Wigan TV subscription for next year. IL is a businessman and he needs a nudge in his proverbials to get the message that fans will not put up with the shoite play and shoite management of the club.

I've sobered up since last night but still totally convinced that KR and SW must go.
As I've said previously unlike the majority on here I believe that the vast majority of this squad are not good enough.
The Tierney disallowed try was a gimme but our backs just can't do the simple basics of the game.
SW seems to think that a bricklayer can lay bricks and know nothing about sand and cement.
I accept that a clear out in one season of 10 or more players isn't going to happen so I understand that the turnaround will take years and I for one wouldn't trust KR to change his socks let alone change the bulk of the squad.

I know SW and he won't change his methods indeed he will grow more and more it's us against the world approach.
It will get worse before it gets better.
The only change I can think of to try and improve our game is to move ST into the 6 shirt and put Williams at 7 with both players playing both sides of the park.
I've done now for the season and won't even bother with the Saints game later in the season. I have also cancelled my Wigan TV subscription for next year. IL is a businessman and he needs a nudge in his proverbials to get the message that fans will not put up with the shoite play and shoite management of the club.

I've sobered up since last night but still totally convinced that KR and SW must go.
As I've said previously unlike the majority on here I believe that the vast majority of this squad are not good enough.
The Tierney disallowed try was a gimme but our backs just can't do the simple basics of the game.
SW seems to think that a bricklayer can lay bricks and know nothing about sand and cement.
I accept that a clear out in one season of 10 or more players isn't going to happen so I understand that the turnaround will take years and I for one wouldn't trust KR to change his socks let alone change the bulk of the squad.

I know SW and he won't change his methods indeed he will grow more and more it's us against the world approach.
It will get worse before it gets better.
The only change I can think of to try and improve our game is to move ST into the 6 shirt and put Williams at 7 with both players playing both sides of the park.
I've done now for the season and won't even bother with the Saints game later in the season. I have also cancelled my Wigan TV subscription for next year. IL is a businessman and he needs a nudge in his proverbials to get the message that fans will not put up with the shoite play and shoite management of the club.