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| They did.
But was going for 2 in the second half instead of going at them when they sounded on the ropes the turning point?
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| Yeah well done to them, it didnt look like a top v bottom clash thats for sure, they were superb today
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Yeah well done to them, it didnt look like a top v bottom clash thats for sure, they were superb today
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Cheers pal, never expected this win especially when we were so far behind at the half.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"They did.
But was going for 2 in the second half instead of going at them when they sounded on the ropes the turning point?'"
Was a strange decision as we got a penalty and tapped then two tackles later we got the second penalty in more or less the same position and went for the two.
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| Congrats to Quins, end of the day we were outplayed and too lethargic in the 2nd half to deserve the win.
Turning point for me was the penalty in Quins half about 15 mins into the 2nd half, I thought taking the shot at goal was negative given the good start Quins had made after half time.
Pressures on now to come up with a performance at Murrayfield next week and we only have ourselves to blame.
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| Well done to Quins. Our defence was poor in the 2nd half.
Best shout of the night was from a bloke behind me in the East Stand. Jonny Walker comes onto the pitch for his debut. The blokes shouts "give it to Jonny Walker we need some spirit". It got a round of applause that one.
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| The turning point for me was Bentham turning down what looked like a good try for Farrell imo but fair play to Quins they got what they deserved.
I've been saying for weeks and weeks that Maguire and Wane changing 15 years worth of complacency bedded into the clubs mindset will take more then just 4 or 5 months and the last 3 weeks has proved that. The players turned up at Salford looking like they thought they just needed to be there to get the win and have followed that up with similar showings in the past 2 weeks. This defeat tonight has been coming and lessons need to be learned.
The real key to the last few weeks preformences has been a real lack of patience with the ball and just a general poor attitude. I'm sure Maguire and Wane will sort that out soon enough though and we'll get back on track.
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| Congrats to Quins, fully deserved and no complaints from me apart from the gutless response from last weeks display.
Luke Dorn ripped us to pieces.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"The turning point for me was Bentham turning down what looked like a good try for Farrell imo but fair play to Quins they got what they deserved.
I've been saying for weeks and weeks that Maguire and Wane changing 15 years worth of complacency bedded into the clubs mindset will take more then just 4 or 5 months and the last 3 weeks has proved that. The players turned up at Salford looking like they thought they just needed to be there to get the win and have followed that up with similar showings in the past 2 weeks. This defeat tonight has been coming and lessons need to be learned.
The real key to the last few weeks preformences has been a real lack of patience with the ball and just a general poor attitude. I'm sure Maguire and Wane will sort that out soon enough though and we'll get back on track.'"
Once they bring Aussie methods of salary cap cheating into Wigan RL you'll be sorted.
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| Have to agree that since the Easter period there does appear to have been a slip in the high standards that we'd set previously. I'm just hoping that only this loss is needed to provide the wake up call that's needed.
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| Quote ="just_browny"Once they bring Aussie methods of salary cap cheating into Wigan RL you'll be sorted.'"
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| Well done Quinns. The better team on the day took the 2 points. No complaints from me.
As for our own performance, you're right NK about the last 3 weeks. The lethargy was evident at Salford and that's why I said MM had made his first mistake in not resting players last week. Instead of fresh players coming into the game this week against SL opposition, we picked up 3 more injuries from that game and had no energy in attack or defense for much of tonight's. The fact that we were so comprehensively out-enthused in the 2nd half illustrates that perfectly for me. This wasn't like the Bradford defeat where we simply put the cue on the rack. Tonight we had no cue to put there! Lessons to be leaned indeed!
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| There was nothing wrong with Farrells try it happended right in front of me it was a try fair and square.
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| Quote ="Bergen Bulldog"Congrats to Quins, end of the day we were outplayed and too lethargic in the 2nd half to deserve the win.
Turning point for me was the penalty in Quins half about 15 mins into the 2nd half, I thought taking the shot at goal was negative given the good start Quins had made after half time.
Pressures on now to come up with a performance at Murrayfield next week and we only have ourselves to blame.
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If you lose that and saints win tomorrow + next week as well as warrington doing the same theres going to be a real log jam in the top 4.
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| In fairness it shouldn't have needed to have been down to Farrell's "try" as the buck stops with us for blowing an 18 point half time lead. Obviously no lesson learned from Odsal earlier in the season.
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| Quote ="post"There was nothing wrong with Farrells try it happended right in front of me it was a try fair and square.'"
Looked nailed on for me.
The speed at which Bentham said he was held up was unbelievable aswell imo. He said he was held up whilst Farrell was still squiming about and he manged to turn and get the ball down anyway.
Still it's no excuse. We got exactly what we deserved.
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| After todays performance I think we are indesperate need of an organising scrum half and a decent prop instead of Fielden.
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| They did but we and the ref gifted it to them.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"They did but we and the ref gifted it to them.'"
thought you was going win 60 6
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| Credit to Quins they fully deserved it. I just hope they play like that against everyone else from now on.
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| Got to agree, well done Harlequins, totally outplayed us in the second half and went away with a deserved win. This result has been in the offing for us for a few weks now and we have to take it on the chin and move on. Wont be the only surprise this year just hope we learn from it.
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| a 32-2 second half(at home) score is unacceptable, Quins took advantage of some really poor defending from Wigan and truly deserved their win , i suppose it was inevitable that we would play them just as they got everyone back ...but things have not looked good for a few weeks to be honest and we've scraped a few wins, this could be a big wake up call for Wigan , and we may now get to see how good we really are and how much of a motivator Maquire really is, tonight we looked flat and lacked the 2nd phase runners that we have had all season and has served us well... personally i think our squad is not strong enough to stay ahead of the pack when we get injuries...Tonight we were short on half backs and it showed ..i'm gutted we lost but we're still top and there's a long way to go. but to put it in perspective if someone had said to me at the start of the season that after 12 rds we'd be at least 2 points clear i'd have thought they were mad
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| Hey, Odemwhinger, the ref gifted it to them?!
I doubt that very much. Have a look at Phil Clarkes Sky column this week. You will see that for the third year in a row, Quins have had by far the least pens awarded.. FYI, you mob have been awarded 97 pens while Quins have have been given a mere 54. Bloody stinks
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| Quote ="post"After todays performance I think we are indesperate need of an organising scrum half and a decent prop instead of Fielden.'"
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Fielden had a good game tonight, plenty of Meters
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