I wish they'd put golden point in the bin. Forget us last night, we lost in a tight affair, against a good side and don't need every point we can get but Cas deserved something from that game tonight. I don't know why a draw can't just be a draw.

[quote="Stranger":liawn407]I know it’s just the opener but I thought Hull looked fit and well trained tonight[/quote:liawn407] Having watched three games now, our pitch is a disgrace compared to the 2 on show this evening. It didn’t help anyone last night.

A draw at 80 minutes should be 1pt each. Don't forget the player welfare were players are allowed to play so many minutes in a season, and then we have this xtra time, and an extra game to play in the CCup. Flippin crazy.

[quote="NickyKiss":38cfg58u]I wish they'd put golden point in the bin. Forget us last night, we lost in a tight affair, against a good side and don't need every point we can get but Cas deserved something from that game tonight. I don't know why a draw can't just be a draw.[/quote:38cfg58u] I said the same NK. I was more gutted for Cas than I was for ourselves to be honest. I understand the "excitement" for TV of golden point but it's no way to negate the 80 minutes of endeavour that preceded it. Also, there is no real jeopardy in the sense that seemingly all golden point games go the same way. It's effectively won by a coin toss.

[quote="DannyT":1qid2ls8]Do teams receiving the ball from kick off in golden point ever win? Does anyone know what the stats are on that?[/quote:1qid2ls8] Leigh started their set of 6 in a worse position than Wigan did when they received the kick-off. Had tackles not been missed, then Leigh would have been on the 6th tackle around halfway and not been in range of the sticks.

[quote="LewCharnock":3vitoij9]Two poor examples, one in each half; O'Neil didn't clear the ruck and the ball cannoned off his legs and went forward 2/3 yards and the shout was play on.[/quote:3vitoij9] They changed the ruling on this a few years ago. There was a season a few years back where teams realised they could get easy penalties by deliberately playing the ball into the defender who had just made a legs tackle or passing it into retreating offside players. There were games that were made into a complete farce by this loophole. They changed it midseason to say the guy playing the ball has to find space to play it, the hooker has to use his skill to play around defenders who have been left on the floor behind the ruck (as long as they don't deliberately obstruct play as O'Neil didn't), and if you deliberately pass the ball into an offside player you will be penalised (didn't happen here but relevant to the overall rule). It's not perfect but penalising O'Neil wouldn't be a good outcome either. He's not trying to obstruct the play and if he moves he's likely to make it worse.