Quote ="Pieman"im being awkward? I have given you examples where people steal cheeky yards and are counted and say its the same as when you catch the ball it should count as then its same across the board, you have argued it all down and brought up a ridiculous example yet im being awkward? The NRL rule is far better as its black and white, last one from me this, if a passing play sweeps from one side of the pitch to the other thus causing the ball to be backwards 10 yards from when it started as its been passed lets say 5 times, you think by your own words a defender should be no where near them on the last pass as they should have got no where near the advantage line? ......ill leave that one with you to ponder'"
You are talking about multiple passes now and trying to find a way to justify what is a stupid idea. That was never the argument. The argument was that the hooker throws the ball back 10 metres and the player that catches it runs 8 metres forward and should be awarded an 8 metre gain even though he lost 2 metres from the position of the last PTB. Its the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard.
You simply cannot claim a gain if the player had lost metres, that is basic common sense that even a 5 year old could get their head around.
If you want to award players metres as you are trying to argue it would have to be a seperate stat for metres run, not metres gained, two very different things.
Lets put it a different way, since your (NRL) way of doing things does not differentiate from metres run and metres gained, would you count metres run sideways and backwards as well? After all, they are still metres the player has run.