Well i have. He's got to play back row.

I've seen some people criticising him saying it's no big deal and he'll be Wigan's third best second rower at best. I think this is due to his most recent League season spent playing out of position at centre where i think he was ok but no where near as good as he was in the second row. If he'd stayed he would have been England's best second rower by now.

I hope he can get back to where he was because i was a big fan of Joel and he offers something we're missing. Can't wait for his second debut.

Ditto, I'm going on holiday on the 2nd!

Build him up for the head to head with Hock.

stats please Bilko, did Joel "often" break a tackle or the line?

can't find his stats for the year but he scored 17 tries in 34 games in the second row in 2010. PS i do know I'm not bilko

His Super League stats that season were:

13 Tries
7 Try Assists
64 Tackle Busts
2577 Metres
6.4 Avg. Meters Per Carry
9 Clean Breaks
26 Errors
45 Offloads
33 Penalties
749 Tackles
41 Missed Tackles (5.5%)

Compared to Hoffman in 2011:

10 Tries
5 Try Assists
2415 Metres
6.8 Avg. Meters Per Carry
13 Clean Breaks
27 Errors
30 Offloads
23 Penalties
645 Tackles
31 Missed Tackles (4.8%)

(JT played 2 games more)