He said there are lots of areas that they need to fix and that the atmosphere, the crowd, "lent to a poor start".

So he believes that it contributed to the initial performance, not that the poor start was all down to any one thing.

Many people have indicated their disappointment with the atmosphere at home games this season.

Although games such as Catalan, with virtually no opposition fans present, have the potential to be flat, more effort is needed from the club and the supporters to generate some energy. Whether the new [url=http://t.co/GqtyNBGsNtWe Are Wigan[/url group are the first step to this remains to be seen.

Their first try was great, by the way.

Brian, did you applaud Van Vollenhovens try at Wembley 1961 ?, if yes, did you need a lie down in a darkened room later.

He did and he hasn't woken up since

Is that the one where he stepped in touch?

That is the one were Freddy Griffiths pushed Voll into touch just has he passed the ball back inside, if Griffiths had tackled him Voll would not have been there to take the return pass.

I was right in the corner were Wigan were attacking and to my horror I saw it all happen.

How this has finished up on a Cats Wigan thread I do not know, I must be easily led due to my age.

We are Wigan are talking about logos and stuff. They're getting more inclusive and cliquey the more I hear. It'll be pyro next.