Also Fielden has been out for the best part of 2 years. He will be way off the pace and there is no way that I can see him being able to play to the higher standards of play off matches.'"

I didn't miss the point, I know exactly what you were trying to say and that is why I gave you that 'old phrase' because you can make all the excuses in the world, but the bottom line is you were the best team by a country mile last year and didn't win the GF, that is bottling it, irrelevant of how you lost against Leeds, because YOU LOST AND SHOULD HAVE WON EASILY!!

Wire bottlers isn't a fact though is it? like i've said before, Wire have only played one playoff game in which they have gone in as favourite, that was last year v Leeds.

Hardly bottling it seeing as they won the whole thing.

In fact up to now, Wire have done quite well in the big games, it may change on the 25th but so far when its mattered they've usually done well.

120 years or so would suggest something different.

Quite a hard statistic to argue with

[uwe had a few players who were not fully fit playing in that game also it took a very,very , VERY dubious descision by a linesman ( i mean,when did you ever see a linesman actually use his flag [/u

Some bias Pies could have said those words as a poor excuse for Saturdays game, NOT ME we were well thumped and that’s that. It’s just poor excuses.