what i remember of that final, we were well and truly battered and deserved to lose. having lam wouldnt have made a difference. nobby used their huge team to great effect.

also fwiw lam didnt play in the semi win at leeds. his last game was the eliminator vs saints.

Lam got to play origin because of the ARL and Super League seperation at the time if I remember correctly, so he was a bit of an exception due to so many players signing with Super League. Don't quote me on that though, it was a long time ago!




Tomkins is a freakish athlete and better than anyone with ball in hand, but Lam made players around him better. I haven't seen a player with as good a creative game in this country in my time watching, not even close. He used to win games almost single handedly for Queensland bringing others into the game.

I think we are a little too obsessed with runners in this country and hence we haven't created a pair of world class half backs for years and that frustration taints my judgement a little, but in terms of rugby league skills he is among the Joey Johns and Thurstons in terms of class.

I stand corrected on the stains being his last match. However it was 2001 GF when we got battered we gave them a game in 2003 with the legend Mike gregory in charge, we had stupid little Luke "clueless" Robinson playing as scrum half, remember the lad who used to kick grubbers when we had a 9 man overlap? With Lam in that final we could have won it. I'm sorry you think otherwise.

Lam was a fine player but there have been a few better than him since.

Thats better.