Brough has declared himself available for Scotland so you can't really pick him for England. This just goes to show how daft it is though. 2 years ago before the world cup he thought England wouldn't pick him so declared himself available for Scotland, whereas if he'd have been patient he'd have been picked this year.

Indeed, would certainly have had him in ahead of Brown or Robinson.

Happy for Goulding, disappointed for Gleeson, worried for England. Very weak squad at Centre and Half Backs. Robinson and Brown at HB is laughable. PNG will be a test for this squad nevermind the aussies and kiwis.

Oh yes, it's not like Leeds and Saints have had to put up for this for a number of years now is it?

widdop
goulding
westwood
ellis
hall
brown
s, tomkins
morley
roby
fielden
burgess
tomkins
o loughlin

griffin
graham
lunt
atkins

no i havnt gone mad...........i reckon we need 2 big centres, not 2 quick centres.
defence is the key.....and with westwood at centre we can get 80 minutes from him and use him as goal kicker.

atkins on bench is cover in case ellis needs switch to 2nd row.

but im still toying with the forwards tbh..........morley, fielden , graham , are all 60/70 minute guys , plus burgess can step into prop...........so maybe a 2nd rower on bench ?............or atkins starter, ellis back row, and joel on bench.

nice headache for the coach

Regarding it being embarrassing, what about previous squads that have gone over and come back with their tails between their legs. These lads can`t do any worse, and to be fair the bulk of the players selected have come from the best defensive sides of the season.