Fielden aint that bad, its just his salary that is the problem.

mossop needs a good couple of years in the second row before moving up to prop at super league level in my opinion, similar to jamie peacock moving up to prop later on in his career, it could reap rewards for mossop who was one of our unsung heroes towards the end of the last year. in the mean time to bring farrell through, why not bring bailey up to prop if required? a squad is the most important thing in this league in terms of rotation because with injuries the likes of ainy, farrell and goulding will all be looking at a few games this year. this is a great problem to have for wigan, all this talent coming through, this influx of talent has come straight out of a winning team and are potentially the best group of youngsters we have brought through for years!

When Mossop was @ the Giants didn't N.Brown see Mossop as a future prop? As for Presscott his ball carrying action worries me, a little. But he has a stop start career so hopefully he will get better with age.

There's a lot of overuse of the word 'average', many people throw it around like if you're not at the pinacle of your position then you're average. Hell even if you are average, it's a team sport and as a collection players sometimes it's even better to have more average than a couple of star turns and some bellow average players. Take a look at the Cowboys for example, best scrum half in the world and a really exciting fullback - it's doing them the power of good isn't it? I'll always remember my dad talking about Swinton in the past when they had a collection of 'average' players but were a really great (and successful team).

Heck the difference in us last season and Leeds wasn't even missing any 'star turns', it's that they were better and more consistent at executing the basics over the course of the season. We actually have a pretty good pack when you look at it as a unit of props and 2nd row if we cut down the mistakes.

Big year from that lad next year I reckon

The way I tend to look at "average" is as a standard below "world class" and "better than average or good". World class players in Super League IMO are players like Peacock, Graham, Morley etc. Players I'd class as better than average or good would be Lockers, Sinfield etc. Coley IMO then falls into the next category of average along with the majority of players in Super League the standard is that poor.

Now people may disagree with my world class players or better than average ones but that's not the point I'm just trying to illustrate my definition of average.