How bad are the Warriors at the moment,total lack of spirit,no leadership and our iver seeas players,Riddell,Roberts are a complete of money.Brian Noble needs to have a long hard look at individual players who taking the p... and Fielden is a joke,his contract is up for renewal.

It's the boredom factor which, of all these, is the one which concerns me most. I've been going to Wigan for nearly 25 years, and was never bored once in any of the first 22 of them. However, in the past couple of years, with the odd exception, the matches have been routinely dull. I could cope better with losing if we were at least entertaining - but we're never going to attract 'floating' fans to come out on a freezing cold evening with the lifeless cr@p that we served up after the 1st 10 mins last night.

I remember matches racing by in the past, but last night I looked at the scoreboard & couldn't believe they'd only played 15 mins of the second half - felt more like 25. In my view, IL & Noble need to sort this out quick - they'll always get people like us coming back, but, as Matty pointed out, when you do the maths it's only really season ticket holders turning up now.

Quote ="JohnP"It's the boredom factor which, of all these, is the one which concerns me most. I've been going to Wigan for nearly 25 years, and was never bored once in any of the first 22 of them. However, in the past couple of years, with the odd exception, the matches have been routinely dull. I could cope better with losing if we were at least entertaining - but we're never going to attract 'floating' fans to come out on a freezing cold evening with the lifeless cr@p that we served up after the 1st 10 mins last night. I remember matches racing by in the past, but last night I looked at the scoreboard & couldn't believe they'd only played 15 mins of the second half - felt more like 25. In my view, IL & Noble need to sort this out quick - they'll always get people like us coming back, but, as Matty pointed out, when you do the maths it's only really season ticket holders turning up now.'" Average attendances: 2007 - 16,039 2008 - 14,504 2009 - ? Well after 4 home games we are averaging 12,679 Very worrying indeed...especially when we see Quins, Celtic and Catalans have to come yet, they will also be empty North Stands! wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=489

Quote ="JohnP"It's the boredom factor which, of all these, is the one which concerns me most. I've been going to Wigan for nearly 25 years, and was never bored once in any of the first 22 of them. However, in the past couple of years, with the odd exception, the matches have been routinely dull. I could cope better with losing if we were at least entertaining - but we're never going to attract 'floating' fans to come out on a freezing cold evening with the lifeless cr@p that we served up after the 1st 10 mins last night. I remember matches racing by in the past, but last night I looked at the scoreboard & couldn't believe they'd only played 15 mins of the second half - felt more like 25. In my view, IL & Noble need to sort this out quick - they'll always get people like us coming back, but, as Matty pointed out, when you do the maths it's only really season ticket holders turning up now.'" Average attendances: 2007 - 16,039 2008 - 14,504 2009 - ? Well after 4 home games we are averaging 12,679 Very worrying indeed...especially when we see Quins, Celtic and Catalans have to come yet, they will also be empty North Stands! wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=489

Quote ="MattyB"Average attendances: 2007 - 16,039 2008 - 14,504 2009 - ? Well after 4 home games we are averaging 12,679 Very worrying indeed...especially when we see Quins, Celtic and Catalans have to come yet, they will also be empty North Stands! wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=489'" 20,000

Quote ="MattyB"Average attendances: 2007 - 16,039 2008 - 14,504 2009 - ? Well after 4 home games we are averaging 12,679 Very worrying indeed...especially when we see Quins, Celtic and Catalans have to come yet, they will also be empty North Stands! wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=489'" 20,000

Quote ="MattyB"Average attendances: 2007 - 16,039 2008 - 14,504 2009 - ? Well after 4 home games we are averaging 12,679 Very worrying indeed...especially when we see Quins, Celtic and Catalans have to come yet, they will also be empty North Stands! wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=489'" You're still looking at an average of 12k when you consider that no side have brought that many yet. In the current economic climate and the fact that the game will more than likely be sh*te - that's pretty good. String some form together (this is the tough bit) and have away followings from Saints, Leeds, Hull KR and Warrington and we'll be close to last years target easily.

Quote ="MattyB"Average attendances: 2007 - 16,039 2008 - 14,504 2009 - ? Well after 4 home games we are averaging 12,679 Very worrying indeed...especially when we see Quins, Celtic and Catalans have to come yet, they will also be empty North Stands! wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=489'" You're still looking at an average of 12k when you consider that no side have brought that many yet. In the current economic climate and the fact that the game will more than likely be sh*te - that's pretty good. String some form together (this is the tough bit) and have away followings from Saints, Leeds, Hull KR and Warrington and we'll be close to last years target easily.