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| Quote ="Perry"There you go again, petty name calling of the supporters.'"
Nope...re-read it. I said there is loyalty and then there is lemming like behaviour. Is English not your first language? I am clearly having a pop at the "shrug shoulders" brigade who by their continued happy smiling attendances with no murmur of discontent give Hughes a nice warm fuzzy feeling. Go back and see the positive claptrap that rolled around here after the one and only super delayed fans forum....it's all been shown to be bollox, the lot of it, bot certain people who also attend games lapped it up........it's not petty namecalling of all supporters, just the idiots who have their heads in the sand/who aren't prepared to even register their discontent with the club. Can I make it any clearer for you?
Quote ="Perry"Oh I'm sorry, do you not approve of how I spend my weekends? Do I not show the correct emotion when I attend a game? Did I not seek your permission before I go to support my team?'"
No I don't care what you do at weekends...but neither do you have the right what, where and when to tell me what to post on a public forum.If you don't like it, there's an ignore button, but tell me what to do and I'll respond in kind!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Can I make it any clearer for you?'" No. Because you spout the same rubbish time and time again. Repeating it won't make it right, or make people agree with you.
Quote ="gutterfax"No I don't care what you do at weekends...but neither do you have the right what, where and when to tell me what to post on a public forum.If you don't like it, there's an ignore button, but tell me what to do and I'll respond in kind!'" Then why do you indulge in petty name calling of anyone who continues to attend matches ("deluded", "lemming", "fanboy", "idiots"icon_wink.gif?
And while we're at it, yes it's a public forum. While you call me names I'll tell what the hell I like, when the hell I like, because contrary to what you seem to think a "public forum" does not restrict everyone else's views while ring-fencing yours.
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| Quote ="Perry"No. Because you spout the same rubbish time and time again. Repeating it won't make it right, or make people agree with you.'"
as I suspected. English isn't your mother tongue because you patently can;'t distinguish between "agree with"
and "clarity". I don't give a flying one if you agree with me......it that clear enough?
Quote ="Perry"Then why do you indulge in petty name calling of anyone who continues to attend matches ("deluded", "lemming", "fanboy", "idiots"icon_wink.gif?'"
Are you French? German perhaps? I ask because I have already explained the difference between the fanboyidiotlemmings and fans.....if I were to post in Swahili would that help you?
Quote ="Perry"And while we're at it, yes it's a public forum. While you call me names I'll tell what the hell I like, when the hell I like, because contrary to what you seem to think a "public forum" does not restrict everyone else's views while ring-fencing yours.'"
ah.....so you do have a soupcon of the mother tongue and therefore understand the meaning of debate. Your view is duly noted and your right to call me names is accepted as a matter of course. Now off and tell someone who cares
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| Not anytime soon. The only way back is if we get a settled core of a team for a couple of seasons . Probably be too late by then.
Just watched the KR highlights. We were dreadful in every aspect. Followed that with the Leigh v Rochdale game. Leigh have structure, stability and quality players. We will struggle against the top championship sides.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"as I suspected. English isn't your mother tongue because you patently can;'t distinguish between "agree with" and "clarity".'" I understand the difference perfectly, clarity is not an issue, I am perfectly clear about what you write on here, I just happen the think it's self-serving rubbish.
Quote ="gutterfax"Are you French? German perhaps?'" No, I understand you perfectly, and your self-promoting diatribes.
Quote ="gutterfax"fanboyidiotlemmings'" More name calling...
Quote ="gutterfax"Now love off and tell someone who cares
'" ...and finished off with thinly disguised banal abuse. All of which just shows up the paucity of your argument and, despite your pretentious claims of articulacy, your limited command of language.
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| Quote ="willow6666"Not anytime soon. The only way back is if we get a settled core of a team for a couple of seasons . Probably be too late by then.
Just watched the KR highlights. We were dreadful in every aspect. Followed that with the Leigh v Rochdale game. Leigh have structure, stability and quality players. We will struggle against the top championship sides.'"
Yes, but that assumes that the team we put out last Saturday will bear any relation to the one that we'll have next season, which, with the number of players being dumped, it won't!
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| Quote ="willow6666"Not anytime soon. The only way back is if we get a settled core of a team for a couple of seasons . Probably be too late by then.
Just watched the KR highlights. We were dreadful in every aspect. Followed that with the Leigh v Rochdale game. Leigh have structure, stability and quality players. We will struggle against the top championship sides.'"
Agree with your sentiment as regards the structure,stability and quality, but as soon as our youngsters reach a certain level they as ever are likely to be poached.
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| Can all the petty arguing stop at some point??
It's getting in the way of discussions that actually focus of the topic relevant to the thread title.. half the time I miss them as I scan through the rubbish
Mods... lets just set a thread called "random dribble" and anyone who wants to engage is squabbles can just post on there.
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| Well said. Hear ye
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| Quote ="Hear Ye!"Can all the petty arguing stop at some point??
It's getting in the way of discussions that actually focus of the topic relevant to the thread title.. half the time I miss them as I scan through the rubbish
Mods... lets just set a thread called "random dribble" and anyone who wants to engage is squabbles can just post on there.'"
Thread was Fine and 100% on topic up to page 6 where the usual posting of "drone" appeared from the bloke that simply stalks me by posting drone and was then followed by an attack on me by PC Plum on page 7.......I did not start this drift....getting a bit ed off that I am being blamed for these thread drifts. I simply said we wouldn't go back up with the same owner who'd taken us down...it was relevant but attacked anyway.
BACK ON THREAD:
Up to then, Paddock, Halfdan, DSWG, Chiswickwire, Georgie Brown, myself, TaRLPaRL nad the Bronconion all said not a chance......
MichaelB, Colly 2, NKpom, Crusader Pete, Southern Reiver and Rich 166 all said we can bounce back
Mark Rammond, Nadera 78, Malifra, Euclid, Rob from E, the Crane Wife and Jaybs offered an opinion but didn't really declare for either side.
NB: Sorry for the misspellings of some user names....it's early here and I'm typing in the dark from memory.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Thread was Fine and 100% on topic up to page 6 where the usual posting of "drone" appeared from the bloke that simply stalks me by posting drone and was then followed by an attack on me by PC Plum on page 7.......I did not start this drift....getting a bit vexed off that I am being blamed for these thread drifts. I simply said we wouldn't go back up with the same owner who'd taken us down...it was relevant but attacked anyway.
BACK ON THREAD:
Up to then, Paddock, Halfdan, DSWG, Chiswickwire, Georgie Brown, myself, TaRLPaRL nad the Bronconion all said not a chance......
MichaelB, Colly 2, NKpom, Crusader Pete, Southern Reiver and Rich 166 all said we can bounce back
Mark Rammond, Nadera 78, Malifra, Euclid, Rob from E, the Crane Wife and Jaybs offered an opinion but didn't really declare for either side.
NB: Sorry for the misspellings of some user names....it's early here and I'm typing in the dark from memory.'"
Self pitying drone
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Thread was Fine and 100% on topic up to page 6 where the usual posting of "drone" appeared from the bloke that simply stalks me by posting drone and was then followed by an attack on me by PC Plum on page 7.......I did not start this drift....getting a bit vexed off that I am being blamed for these thread drifts. I simply said we wouldn't go back up with the same owner who'd taken us down...it was relevant but attacked anyway.
BACK ON THREAD:
Up to then, Paddock, Halfdan, DSWG, Chiswickwire, Georgie Brown, myself, TaRLPaRL nad the Bronconion all said not a chance......
MichaelB, Colly 2, NKpom, Crusader Pete, Southern Reiver and Rich 166 all said we can bounce back
Mark Rammond, Nadera 78, Malifra, Euclid, Rob from E, the Crane Wife and Jaybs offered an opinion but didn't really declare for either side.
NB: Sorry for the misspellings of some user names....it's early here and I'm typing in the dark from memory.'"
Quote ="Thecranewife"Self pitying drone'"
Insightful as ever.......and to think the mods get pestered about my repetitive posting
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| Quote ="Hear Ye!"Can all the petty arguing stop at some point??
It's getting in the way of discussions that actually focus of the topic relevant to the thread title.. half the time I miss them as I scan through the rubbish
Mods... lets just set a thread called "random dribble" and anyone who wants to engage is squabbles can just post on there.'"
Sorry it got like that Hear Ye!, I normally ignore the drivel but when fans are being criticised for actually going to watch the team play I didn't feel I could let that go.
If all the fans stop going that really will be it. Let's face it we're not the first club to be in bother, the history of RL is littered with examples and there is a common thread throughout that history. While players, coaches, management, shareholders, owners, all come and go, it's always the die hard fans who stick around even when it looks like a lost cause.
To answer the OP, of course there is a way back, whether we find it is another question.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Insightful as ever.......and to think the mods get pestered about my repetitive posting
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Any chance of another self-imposed exile from the forum Gutterfax? How about trying 10 years this time?
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| I believe we will have as good a forward pack as any in the competition next season with two six foot two brick outhouses packing down with a 17 stone Hooker and a very good loose forward in Harrison. I'm sure we'll find a few more big lads to pack down - Lovell and McMeeken would be ok - and the days of being pushed around will be over.
With the pack alone, I'm confident of at least a top six spot.
I believe the 2014 backs and halfbacks are the lowest quality backs in Super League history, as a collective they are in the main poor tacklers who do not score tries and offer very little. I wouldn't be confident that they would suddenly become good players in the Championship.
For me to think we'll be better than that, I'll need to see who is signed and playing in the backs.
In the halfbacks have a lot of doubts in Foran who I have never seen play well - I remember his debut for Salford v London when we were 24-0 up away at half time - and he hasn't played many top flight game in his career whilst the youngsters like Keyes, Woodburn-Hall and Thomas could become special players but may need another season or two to be top class.
In the outside backs, I believe our chances of signing Dixon again will depend on whether we play him this year; if we do he is sure to go. He will be prolific. Macani is also a great prospect although needs more self-belief. That's all you can get excited about from what we have there, unless the under 19 guys start amazingly like Caton-Brown did.
If we make the right signings in the outside backs, we'd have a chance against the Super League teams, but I'll be surprised if we do get the players we need - might need to win a few more games to attract better players - so I'll say top 4 overall but not promotion next year.
Cheers
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Any chance of another self-imposed exile from the forum Gutterfax? How about trying 10 years this time?'"
Why? So you want another "favourite game" thread?
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Why? So you want another "favourite game" thread?'"
Just so a bunch of RL fans who have a basic level of respect for other people's opinions can discuss the club fairly sensibly without being constantly shot down by an arrogant, repetitive guy with nothing positive or particularly interesting to say.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Just so a bunch of RL fans who have a basic level of respect for other people's opinions can discuss the club fairly sensibly without being constantly shot down by an arrogant, repetitive guy with nothing positive or particularly interesting to say.'"
No evidence of that happening when I walked last time
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| Quote ="gutterfax"No evidence of that happening when I walked last time'"
Indeed the place was even more dead.
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| Perry wrote:
I'm with CrusaderPete ........we'll still be here in one form or another because we, the fans, the REAL fans, will still be here.
Gutterfax wrote:
He shoots....he scores.....
From Sunday Evening:
CrusaderPete wrote:
Well thats the last of my cash they'll have for this season, Grima has to get real and remember theres a product to sell, I don't buy broken eggs or mouldy bread, I ain't paying to watch this either!
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...if you run you might just catch him up so you can "be with him"
Lol, I think you'll find thats two more home games and I WILL be back next season, just ain't paying to watch Grima wind it down. Next year I will purchase a shirt (I'm not gonna rely on one being ready for my wife to buy me for Christmas, not even until April for my birthday).
And I will attend between 6 and 10 home games, shift-pattern allowing as I always do, and squeeze in the odd away day. I will be as positive as always too, we WILL get promoted!!!
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| Quote ="CrusaderPete"I will be as positive as always too, we WILL get promoted!!!'"
And I'll be here to keep you grounded.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"And I'll be here to keep you grounded.'" Translation: He'll be there to promote himself from afar… and bore the s*** out of the rest of us.
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| Quote ="Perry"Translation: He'll be there to promote himself from afar… and bore the s*** out of the rest of us.'"
Self promote myself? This is a strange notion you promote......why would I or who to?
As for boring the out of you....the fact that you can't find the ignore function makes me think I brighten your day when I post.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"And I'll be here to keep you grounded.'"
I'm sure you will GF, I'm sure you will
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| Another bloody car crash of a thread.
Debate the topics not the posters.
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