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| Quote ="Dave Lister"50-75'"
5075? That's an excellent away following..........well done quins!
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| Who cares how many they bring, lets just hope its a good game and a wire win.
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| Quote ="captain mozza"Who cares how many they bring, lets just hope its a good game and a Quins win.'"
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| Quote ="captain mozza"Who cares how many they bring, lets just hope its a good game and a wire win.'"
I care. The more paying speccies they bring the more money goes into the wires coffers!
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| Quote ="Wilderspool memories"I care. The more paying speccies they bring the more money goes into the wires coffers!'"
Yep, apologies in advance
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| Quote ="Wilderspool memories"I care. The more paying speccies they bring the more money goes into the wires coffers!'"
One of the problems with league. Money from gate receipts should be shared, as it should with merchandise, as well as other costs.
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Quote ="Wilderspool memories"I care. The more paying speccies they bring the more money goes into the wires coffers!'"
Now now.
saying that will get your thread locked
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Quote ="Wilderspool memories"I care. The more paying speccies they bring the more money goes into the wires coffers!'"
Now now.
saying that will get your thread locked
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It depends on the context. The context of your thread and this are different.
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It depends on the context. The context of your thread and this are different.
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| Quote ="The Curtism"It depends on the context. The context of your thread and this are different.'"
Well......not really.
The Wire fan said that the more travelling fans people bring equates more money into Warringtons coffers.
I was making the same point.
It stands to reason that the more away fans that turn up, the more tickets get sold, therefore it's a bigger earner for the club.
Why do you think your club is always skint?
No one wants to come and see you play........for whatever reason. This obviously isn't the only reason but it certainly doesnt help does it?
Your ground holds just shy of 15,000. How many do you think will turn up for the Quins v Crusaders match? 3,000 if you are lucky?
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| Quote ="Pete_Zatoppin"Well......not really.
The Wire fan said that the more travelling fans people bring equates more money into Warringtons coffers.
I was making the same point.
It stands to reason that the more away fans that turn up, the more tickets get sold, therefore it's a bigger earner for the club.
Why do you think your club is always skint?
No one wants to come and see you play........for whatever reason. This obviously isn't the only reason but it certainly doesnt help does it?
Your ground holds just shy of 15,000. How many do you think will turn up for the Quins v Crusaders match? 3,000 if you are lucky?'"
So what do you care?
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| Quote ="Darthchris"One of the problems with league. Money from gate receipts should be shared, as it should with merchandise, as well as other costs.'"
You little commie you
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| Quote ="Pete_Zatoppin"We are bringing 5 but if me old china Phil Mitchell can get his VW Polo back on the road you can add 4 more to that.
S' dahhhn the Arches 'avin a new set of electric Eels seing as some mug piked 'em from ahhhhht side the Queen Vic. Grant and I woz only havin a little Arfur Scargill and some mug was 'avin it large innit
Knaaaawotahmeeeeeeeeen
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We have an Eastenders fan i feel more sorry for you. Even if we have less numbers we make it up in noise
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| Quote ="Wilderspool memories"I care. The more paying speccies they bring the more money goes into the wires coffers!'"
You will only waste it on under achieving players' anyway
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| Quote ="chissitt"You will only waste it on under achieving players' anyway
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58-0!
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| In actual fact your travelling support was extremely poor. Personally I only saw 2 quins shirts!
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| Quote ="Wilderspool memories"In actual fact your travelling support was extremely poor. Personally I only saw 2 quins shirts!
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maybe that's because the club haven't released this years shirts yet
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| Or maybe quins fans just don't like jedward!
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| Quote ="Wilderspool memories"Or maybe quins fans just don't like jedward!'"
There were about 20 on one bus and the usual 20/30 northern exiles, so about 50.
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| The same old argument time and time again-boring
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| Well I am not arguing but you get 3,000 at home and 50 fans away for a club that under many different names is now 30 years old. Face facts. It isn't working fellas.
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| Quote ="Wilderspool memories"Well I am not arguing but you get 3,000 at home and 50 fans away for a club that under many different names is now 30 years old. Face facts. It isn't working fellas.
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It clearly isn't but don't tell our benefactors at sky who no doubt have already noticed that one of the so called expansionist teams have headed back to the heartlands because if they find out it will almost certainly mean that the sport will regress to what it was, a semi professional sport served exclusively up to a small minority of flat capped Muppets along the M62 corridor rarely to be seen on TV again. My apologies to our friends in the south of France who incidentally wear flat caps too
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| Quote Well I am not arguing but you get 3,000 at home and 50 fans away for a club that under many different names is now 30 years old. Face facts. It isn't working fellas.
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Ive stood in Wilderspool on many occasions with only 3000 other people there after 100 years-enjoy your luck of having Moran on board-without him the council would have seen you down the drain with the debts and derelict stadium
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| Quote ="Wilderspool memories"Well I am not arguing but you get 3,000 at home and 50 fans away for a club that under many different names is now 30 years old. Face facts. It isn't working fellas.
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Define Working please.
If you mean home fans, I agree, not working.
Away fans, I disagree (you clock up 5,000+ miles and twice as many pounds following your team each season before you are qualified to speak on that one. Not relevant anyway as points aren't awarded for away fans.
Development ...sorry, but that is working with 2 cockney England Internationals and 5 cockneys on the park last Sunday.
Growth of the game.....Working. Rugby League is growing at a rapid rate down here....Londons Newest Club, the Phantoms have just started training near West Ham.
Stadium......one of the best places to watch Rugby of either code (not my words, but those of visiting fans) Working
Finances? Tough one this. Branson left us in the lurch and we almost paid the ultimate price in 2005, but we have Mr Hughes who is currently willing to bail us out, so we tick that box.....just!
Every time I answer one of these sweeping "it's not working posts" it would seem that the only argument against London RL would be our fans.......for which, we lose 2 licence points....unless I am missing something....
Anyway, how many Young, current England intrnationals do wire currently have...especially ones that are a product of your own regional system or academy? over 100 years and no current internationals? Have to say, it's not working fella
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Define Working please.
If you mean home fans, I agree, not working.
Away fans, I disagree (you clock up 5,000+ miles and twice as many pounds following your team each season before you are qualified to speak on that one. Not relevant anyway as points aren't awarded for away fans.
Development ...sorry, but that is working with 2 cockney England Internationals and 5 cockneys on the park last Sunday.
Growth of the game.....Working. Rugby League is growing at a rapid rate down here....Londons Newest Club, the Phantoms have just started training near West Ham.
Stadium......one of the best places to watch Rugby of either code (not my words, but those of visiting fans) Working
Finances? Tough one this. Branson left us in the lurch and we almost paid the ultimate price in 2005, but we have Mr Hughes who is currently willing to bail us out, so we tick that box.....just!
Every time I answer one of these sweeping "it's not working posts" it would seem that the only argument against London RL would be our fans.......for which, we lose 2 licence points....unless I am missing something....
Anyway, how many Young, current England intrnationals do wire currently have...especially ones that are a product of your own regional system or academy? over 100 years and no current internationals? Have to say, it's not working fella
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So home fans you agree it's not working? Good.
Away fans. I travel to every away game Warrington play in and have also visited america and australia to watch them play. If your fans were truly intersted,the milage wouldn't matter,so that's that point put to bed. I wouldn't dream of missing a wires away game,if they were playing on the moon I would get there. The same can't be said for your fans......sorry.(So I am actually "qualified" to speak on that one!).
Ground. Yes a nice ground but lacks atmosphere. We had over 11,500 on sunday with only a handful of away support. Could you match that when we play at your place in september? I doubt it.
Finances. Okay like us you have someone who is putting his own cash in and will bail you out when the going gets tough. That's fine we are equal there then!
Youth and academy setup. Warrington's is one of the finest in the country and John Bastian and Peter Farrell do a sterling job,persuading many young players to join warrington despite interest from saints,leeds,wigan,etc. For full internationals,if you look at the number of full internationals we have produced over the last 20 years it's considerably more than your club has produced,so indeed this time it's you that is "not qualified" to comment on that one! Finally,if your club is doing as well as you claim across the board,why can't you attract larger crowds? One reason maybe is that you have always played in a union stronghold(london)where league is viewed as the enemy. In the north league and union exist side by side with no animosity from one code to the other. We no longer wear flat caps and are certainly not muppets as we have the willpower,ability and desire to respect a rival code of rugby in our area and realise that people have freedom of choice and may wish to support union as well as or instead of league. When I drank in the wetherspoons pub in Twickenham once and chatted with the locals I realised the feeling wasn't mutual. They were all football or union fans who loathed league with a passion. Tell someone in that pub you have played or are about to play harlequins and they talk union to you! Most of them don't even know the league side exists! Sorry if this makes unpleasant reading but it's very true in my opinion.
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| Quote ="Wilderspool memories"So home fans you agree it's not working? Good.
Away fans. I travel to every away game Warrington play in and have also visited america and australia to watch them play. If your fans were truly intersted,the milage wouldn't matter,so that's that point put to bed. I wouldn't dream of missing a wires away game,if they were playing on the moon I would get there. The same can't be said for your fans......sorry.(So I am actually "qualified" to speak on that one!)..'"
Oh dear....you missed the last bit...away fans don't count on the licence application. Oh, 5,000+ miles with 9 games away confirmed on Friday nights...so days off work as well as all the other logistical nightmares like trains all apparently being solar powered north of Watford.....ie...they stop running when the sun goes down
Quote ="Wilderspool memories"Ground. Yes a nice ground but lacks atmosphere. We had over 11,500 on sunday with only a handful of away support. Could you match that when we play at your place in september? I doubt it.
Finances. Okay like us you have someone who is putting his own cash in and will bail you out when the going gets tough. That's fine we are equal there then!.'"
The point you were referring to was the ground, not the atmosphere or crowd numbers....please pay attention. As for finance, we are both in trouble if the sugar daddies get bored or burnt.
Quote ="Wilderspool memories"Youth and academy setup. Warrington's is one of the finest in the country and John Bastian and Peter Farrell do a sterling job,persuading many young players to join warrington despite interest from saints,leeds,wigan,etc. For full internationals,if you look at the number of full internationals we have produced over the last 20 years it's considerably more than your club has produced,so indeed this time it's you that is "not qualified" to comment on that one!'"
CURRENT......means recent...you know, last 2 or 3 seasons. With 100+ years of history I would expect you to have loads of England international players...but a bit thin on the ground at the moment wouldn't you agree?
Quote ="Wilderspool memories"Finally,if your club is doing as well as you claim across the board,why can't you attract larger crowds? One reason maybe is that you have always played in a union stronghold(london)where league is viewed as the enemy. In the north league and union exist side by side with no animosity from one code to the other. We no longer wear flat caps and are certainly not muppets as we have the willpower,ability and desire to respect a rival code of rugby in our area and realise that people have freedom of choice and may wish to support union as well as or instead of league. When I drank in the wetherspoons pub in Twickenham once and chatted with the locals I realised the feeling wasn't mutual. They were all football or union fans who loathed league with a passion. Tell someone in that pub you have played or are about to play harlequins and they talk union to you! Most of them don't even know the league side exists! Sorry if this makes unpleasant reading but it's very true in my opinion.'"
...and as I said, it ALWAYS comes down to fans......
Feel free to reply, but unless you are going to disprove my point, which you basically just endorsed with your first reply, I wouldn't bother.
Good luck for the rest of the season...I am sure this will be THE year
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