Who flattened him? When was this? Must be in the build up to a Leeds try?

Is it just me or is Williamson looking like a poor piece of business? Woeful today. At fault for a lot of the penalties, some silly decisions when on the ball and not great in defence.

Don't understand why Golden was subbed on about the 30 minute mark and never re-appeared, when 'Cougar' played the full 80.

Chad, superb as always, as was Clubby and LMS.

Also why didn't Gale appear for the second half? Didn't see him pick up an injury....

Also....Howell is very underrated.

Its obviously not ok for players to be taken out at any time by anyone but the answer to your original question stands the VR Phil Bentham in this matter would surely not give a try unless he genuinely thought it was a try.

Two things to factor in for yesterday:
(1) We beat them at Headingley, so they were really up for this game.
(2) If we'd beaten them by 16+ we'd have taken their place as second in the table, which they seem to be content to maintain until the play-offs. I'm with the contributor to another thread who reckons Leeds are in cruise control until the end of the regular season and are just doing enough to keep their present position.

Leeds were very good once they got into gear (from about midway through the first half onwards) but we remained competitive until just before half time. Conceding fourteen points in the space of about five minutes either side of the break, thanks to some schoolboy errors, killed us off. Leeds didn't take their foot off our throat after that and we were made to look rather naive and pedestrian; our defnce repeatedly punctured by quick incisive attacks. Leeds looked mentally one step ahead as well as physically quicker and apart from the one second half try we barely threatened their line after that.

BMc wrote in his programme column that the only way to react to a heavy defeat is hard graft - it's never an option to go easy in training or a day off. I reckon our team are in for their most intensive week of the season and hopefully we'll bounce back with a win at Belle Vue next weekend, because we haven't lost consecutive league games so far this year.

Leuluai flattened Randall. Why does it have to be in the build up to a try? Its taking a player out off the ball - nothing to do with obstruction, its still a penalty.

Randall was terrible



And you thought Clubb had a good game?! Some Leeds supporters I was talking to didn't even realise he was on the pitch.

And you are slagging off Williamson? Honestly did I watch a different game? He probably has more tackles and hit ups than the huge majority of the team.

randall mis read the play and moved across to tackle the wrong man. he moved towards the leeds dummy runner. a poor play on his behalf

Disagree. I still think at the end of the day he was taken out off the ball by a "dummy runner" who was nowhere near the play. So now its OK to take people out if they are dummy runners and the defender makes the mistake of being in the way? Disgusting decision IMO, at least it had no bearing on the game though.

I thought Williamson was possibly our best performer on the day. He's a tough, unflashy forward who helps provide the platform for creative players to shine and doesn't give much away. He's a very much team player who does the hard yards, not someone who's going to do inspirational solo stuff, and I'm not sure he could have been expected to do much more within a generally mediocre team performance against strong opposition playing near their peak.

Agreed

Even for you this is emarrasing and thats saying something - T......R.....Y.

Go back to being made look stupid on SouthStander

Look, admitting your knowledge of the game is questionable may be the first steps on the road to recovery, come on, be a man and take those steps!!







T........R........Y - by plenty.

Good for you

Having watched the game via the comfort of my sofa, without the sun in my eyes, I have to say that with the exception of the first 10 -12 minutes, Leeds dominated the play.

Quins were at the races in those first 10 mins Rhino's weren't. When you get phases in games such as that then you have to capitilise on them. Scoring only 4 points isn't doing that. Sinfield rallied his boys with a few sharp words. Did we miss Purdham's leadership last night during this crucile stage of play? I suspect we did. Webb also made a try saving ingoal tackle at a stage of the game when Quins were still in the hunt.

When Quins turned over the ball, Rhino's made better use of it than when the situation was reversed.

Sharp had a mare, Randall a good game but not up to his recent high standands and again Howell showed his worth in a Quins shirt.

At this stage in the season I can't see beyond a Saints & Rhino's grand final.

And if at the begining of the season anyone had said we'd be in striking distance of home advantage in the play offs we'd have all bitten of their hand.

keep the faith

I thought we got out of the blocks well and dominated early, then fell into a trap of over confidence.

Leeds, Saints etc will always thrash a team when they get in front by 20 and there confidence is high-The calibre and speed of there players is brilliant. The difficult part is stopping them playing by pressuring them early which is what we did at Leeds and for the first 10 last night(Leeds kept making "unforced errors"icon_wink.gif.

Once they [iLet rip [/ithere is no stopping them. We made some terrible mistakes last night and helped them along.

Sharpe surely wont be a Wakey next week-unless the reserves are there.

Losing Gayle didn't help forcing Howell into 6.

Lest forget the game and move on

Indeed. At least it wasn't Cas



(Or Wigan

)

Cant forget either of them! sadly

Howell knocked Randall over after bouncing off Leuluai. Why was Howell trying to tackle Leuluai when he didn't have the ball? Don't agree with you on that one at all.

Only seen it once so could be wrong. Would have to check again tbh. You could argue it all day - why was Leuluai running into Howell when he didn't have the ball?

if it's nowhere near the play then it's play on anyway. Its also a prime example of the player committing to a tackle before the man gets the ball.

I'm not saying its obstruction. I'm saying a player is getting taken out off the ball, when it is nowhere near the play - where it happens is not relevent in this case.

I'll watch it again and will happily correct myself but from what I saw last night, IMO Leuluai took the players out, regardless of their attempts to make the tackle. What could they have done? Stood there and got poleaxed? Moved out of the way?

Its in the rules that players can run dummy lines, the ball was passed behind leuleui so there was no obstruction and therefore a fair try. It was the quins player who bought the dummy and went for dummy runner instead of the player with the ball.

I mean get real, you should know the rules

I am aware of the rules, I understand dummy lines, I understand the fact it was passed behind Leuluai, I understand where was no obstruction, all I am saying is from the ONE time I have seen this on the TV, it looked like Leuluai took a man out off the ball. As I have said, if this isn't the case and the players were drawn to Leuluai and not the other way around, then i'll hold my hands up.