I know that Gutterfax has already mentioned it and I appreciate that some Saints fans may be annoyed at the additional cost, but for what it is worth quite a few Quins RL fans took a hit when last seasons away fixture at Catalan was changed......4 of us that were intending to go to the Saturday game cancelled when it was changed to Sunday and lost £500 in the process......but I do not recall any Quins fans wanting the Catalans CEO`s head on a stick or Catalan being accused of ripping us off. In this instance we `tenants` do not have control of the ground and ticketing on the day....so it would be appreciated if the `rip off` accusations were directed at Quins RU and not the RL side.

You can hang around the A&E at Prince Charles afterwards too. What an evening!

Did you get all your money back for the cancelled hotel room?
Where did you originally decide to stay?

Could they not issue-

Red tickets for the RU game (& RL game)-£25 cannot be used to enter the ground after the union game has finished to prevent handing them on

Blue tickets for the RL game-£15 to be used 4:15 PM onwards

Season tickets get both which they have sorted anyway.

=#0040FF:cn51w7ynSeason tickets get both which they have sorted anyway


This is a valid point - As a Season ticket holder i got a free ticket to watch the union game - this was an allocated seat in the north stand as my usual seat was being used by the union season ticket holder - I'll take up my usual seat before our game.

This did not cost me a penny more than i have already paid which means that i am getting into the double header for a lot less than non season ticket holders and Saints fans.


when i collected my tickets at the salford game i was told that the number of RL season ticket holders who had taken up this offer was very good. which means that there is a demand to see both games from the RL supporters

I'd pay £40 to sit it crap seats just to watch my club.

£25 is no problem at all.

In all honesty there also seems to be some underlying Union hatred on this thread. I don't go and watch the Union team play live, but I watch on Sky and keep up to date with their news. So if I was to be a netural here...then I'd have to admit that they have got some pretty useful and skillful players. The match will be entertaining, mainly because at the time of the game Leeds will be fighting to avoid relegation and Quins are in a mid table position where European qualification is a possibility. So the match will be a tense encounter with a good atmosphere. I understand that there are people on here that are so far gone on their hatred for Union that they are completely unwilling to watch it, but its not like the club are ripping us off...2 games of top tier rugby (of each code) is something in the World that only Quins (other than Leeds now) can offer...has anyone thought of that?! £25 for a whole day isn't that bad...how much would a premiership football match, ticket to Wimbledon, ticket to a sporting final etc cost? Hey, if anything going to the Union match will give you the experience of one thing a League match won't...and that is filled stadium! Only and before I get the "slaps" for posting a balanced point I am infact a league fan, I just have taken the blinkers off long ago and can now proudly say I can enjoy Quins and top tier rugby all year round......why not join me, just an idea!

Yup. There's also some underlying anti-expansionist feeling on this thread too! (At least from the northern contingent anyway)

Alas, parochialism of one kind or another is alive and kicking!

The fact of the matter is that Quins RU or RL are using all means at their disposal to try and persuade Quins RL and Saints RFL fans to part with more money than they need to in order to watch a Superleague fixture.
Why? No idea! but it smacks of desperation

Yup, and the joke of it is, that when the subject of getting more bums on seats raises it's head once in a while

everybody always goes on about the Union supporters and why don't they want to experience a League match, but, god forbid many League supporters will actively think about going the other way and experiencing a Union game at the same club.

Sometimes you really do despair of this sport and some of it's supporters, and we wonder why it never gets better exposure than it does and struggles to get known outside of any heartlands area.

Had a look at the seating arrangement for this game and is very nearly a sell out in 3 stands. Lets say Leeds bring a couple of hundred and Saints a Thousand then the ground will be full. I really hope the club rl are heavily marketing to the Union crowd on the deal and be very imaginative for once.

.....and do you think the will

errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr probably not but I live in hope that one day a breakthrough can be made.

Not quite "at the same club" but only just over the road, I'll have you know I've actually paid to go and watch a union match at Twickers. Won't do it again because the game is of no interest to me and I don't expect union supporters to come and watch us if they've no interest either.

[size=50Above referenced Union match involved Steele-Bodger's XV and was in 1960 (+/- 1 year).[/size

I tried looking at the news archive and the articles relating to this couldn't be found

- other stuff could

Was it something to do with the availability of the then-new west stand? I know that I got a seat in there and was able to look across at my existing ST seat in the east stand. So maybe the west stand became available right at the end of the union season and so wasn't used by union supporters and hence was all available to us?

Or maybe I'm mis-remembering as usual.

Can't be bothered replying to messages right now but I have recieved a reply from the club, our esteemed GM will be releasing a statement with regards to this. Look forward to seeing it.

In fact the e-mail I have recieved in "reply" to my message is pathetic and has addressed nothing that I queried. Perhaps they have their hands tied and are unable to express any thoughts on the matter, which is even worse because I suppose the Union lot have effectively told them to shut up. If any other club did this there would be uproar, alas some people on here are STILL thinking it is acceptable. I'm starting to shift more towards the views of rupe1 right now, as Harlequins Rugby United or whatever it is called is the most one sided, embarrassing, and disrespectful thing I have experienced supporting RL in the South. If anyone wants to go to the RU game and whistle at their goal kicks, inform their players at their lack of skill and relay our feelings towards their fanbase, then PM me.

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Listy...I appreciate that this has really got to you...it did me as well when it was announced, but for different reasons. I sympathise with the Saints fans as well as those Quins fans who go to occoasional games and now have to fork out an extra £10...BUT.......naming names of staff who are in no way responsible for this decision is not on. Believe me, I have incurred the wrath of the club, the rfl and the mods on this board over the years, but naming names is a "no no", especially when it is an innocent that incurs your wrath.
The fact is that everything you take for granted on match day, the bars, the bands, the lunches in the jesters, the players being available to chat to...none of this would happen without the efforts of one person. This person works very hard to make things happen and in no way deserves to take flack for this. I have seen this person close to tears with the stress of getting things done. The Xmas event in 2008 was a fiasco, with the bars not cleaned, hundreds of empty kegs just left on the walkway in front of the East Stand and this person mustered troops and got things done.......and at the end of the day the look of stress but relief was quite disturbing. The support from the rest of the "club" was minimal in my opinion and may explain why this event didn't happen this year.
Paul Blanchard on the other hand is the General Manager of the club and it is him that should catch any flack if you feel strongly about this, but be warned, we exist only because of David Hughes, the RFL expansionist plans, possibly SKY TV and the patience of Harlequins Rugby Union.
I hope that you see sense and remove the name from this post..........they really doesn't deserve it.

See my PM for reasoning.

And I'm sorry but I'm not buying into that sob story. I am sure that as one of the more senior members of the club, she is very well paid, and the job title, like I said, comes with a certain level of accountability. If this is completely PB's doing and this is completley out of PW's hands, then fair shout, but the e-mail I recieved was pretty shoddy for a so called OM. I'm not going to share it, you'll have to take my word for it. But the phrase "cop out" springs to mind.

In fact, I see your point GF, but I'm just tee'd off with the reply I got. In fact, I am now pretty sure who is responsbile for this decision, but I didn't think PB would ever bother replying.

What am I even talking about? I bet even PB had no input into this "decision".

Last message. The day I edit out a club employee's name on the basis that their feelings are hurt is the day I stop posting on these forums.

I recall attending an Open Day at The Stoop in September 2005 and the West Stand wasn't quite complete, so presumably no union STs were sold for that stand that season. (The double header would have been Spring 2006 I think.) furthermore the union team were outisde the top division that season so presumably their crowds weren't quite at the same level as now.

I was under the impression the union team comes close to a sell out for most games so I would have thought it a tight squeeze to accommodate our crowd too (especially for a fixture with a larger than average travelling support) without selling some of the same seats separately for the two games.

As for the £25 ticket price for Saints fans including a game of no interest to them - as a matter of principle I think this is wrong. The closest equivalent I can think of would be if our game at Leeds was preceded by a Leeds Tykes match kicking off three and a half hours before our game, with a gap of almost two hours between matches, and we were charged an extra tenner on top of the regular price. It wouldn't stop me from attending if I was going to travel in the first place, but the union game would be of no interest to me whatsoever and I wouldn't be impressed. The earlier suggestion on this thread that different coloured "league only" tickets could have been sold to only admit the bearer after the union game is over sounds logical, but there could be a stewarding/safety issue in directing them to vacant seats as no one would know which union fans intended returning to watch the "free" second game, having paid their usual £25 for their own game.

Other than putting a spin on our average attendance for the purposes of our next licence application I'm beginning to think this whole double header has fewer plusses than minuses and that the union team should ahve arranged their match for the Friday evening or Sunday afternoon instead.

Now all it needs is a double-header programme at a double-header price, double-header car parking charges since the space will be occupied for longer....the list could be endless.