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| In the papers today it is suggesting SL is going to 14 in 2019. Will we be in the mix with TO, Toronto, Leigh etc
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| Quote ="Honkytonk"A bit off topic, but looking at the TWP squad, how on earth are they within the cap???'"
It depends on what the RFL consider as money that is counted on and off the cap. It is highly unlikely that any of the players of club staff from the UK are paying rent on their digs, so once the club has covered that and the food etc then the players are essentially paid "spending money".
What puzzles me though is the "draw" of a new city like Toronto, when we couldn't get northerners to come 200 miles south to the greatest metropolis on the planet? Maybe Mr H should have invested in a boarding house and given free accommodation as part of the package?
Back on topic......it's a straight Toronto v Leigh for top spot, with Toulouse, London, Fax and Fev fighting for the other 2 spots.....as a full time outfit I think we should make 3rd, but as other have said, we do look paper thin in some positions!
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| It is obvious that the reigns have been pulled in by DH. He is back in sulk mode.
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| Quote ="Bostwick"It is obvious that the reigns have been pulled in by DH. He is back in sulk mode.'"
We're the ones who should be sulking....his track record on employing the wrong people then sulking when they prove to be the wrong people is quite alarming.....
...we needed a quality coach, who in turn would have attracted maybe the 3 or 4 class players we need. Instead we've got an untried coach and a squad with too many youngsters in it.....it's going to be 2015 all over again!
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| Wellington Alberts (PNG) was the kind of prop I wanted us to get. He apparently had agread to join Doncaster before Widnes stepped in at the last minute. We should have been all over that before Donny (ok we may have lost him towidnes but I suspect we would never have evn tried).
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| Quote ="Honkytonk"Wellington Alberts (PNG) was the kind of prop I wanted us to get. He apparently had agread to join Doncaster before Widnes stepped in at the last minute. We should have been all over that before Donny (ok we may have lost him towidnes but I suspect we would never have evn tried).'"
I think I named him as a target well in advance of the world cup...there are a few PNG players who could do the job for us.
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| There are. Same as in the NSW/Queensland cup. If true and we do not sign anymore players we will get what we deserve.
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| Also, the paper talk about SL becoming 14 teams in 2019. My guess would be the current 12 plus Leigh and Toronto. Dont see how we get in/make the cut as it currently stands
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| Quote ="Honkytonk"Also, the paper talk about SL becoming 14 teams in 2019. My guess would be the current 12 plus Leigh and Toronto. Dont see how we get in/make the cut as it currently stands'"
The only way any club owned by DH will get into SL is by promotion.....
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| Dog, can't see the point in harping back to the past again and again it can't be changed.
And we get back to the same arguement, without DH we don't get into SL either as there is no LB.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Dog, can't see the point in harping back to the past again and again it can't be changed.
And we get back to the same arguement, without DH we don't get into SL either as there is no LB.'"
Nah.....my bad. The RFL will welcome Mr Megalomania back wit open arms
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| Leigh may score poorly on no academy. Possibly location- do we need a Wigan B team? Crowds are nothing special. Im not sure they offer much more than what we have.
The question is do the RFL want to expand geographically?
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| I think the first question is, can London pull together enough funding to be viable members of the top tier?
Doesn't matter what the RFL want if no viable proposition exists.
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| Kurt Baptiste Joins Leigh - the big 2 continue to strengthen and no movement from London
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| WQ the RFL would love to expand graphically, but the problem is without the folk to put the money in it will never happen. London broncos are clinging on by the skin of their teeth to the full time pro game. Skolars keep plugging away. But look elsewhere South Wales! That went well didn't it. Oxford gone!!!! Will they do any better down in Bristol? Doubt it.
Hemel stags had Lots of money pumped into it, where are they? Dewsbury sad thing is especially with stags is look at what they produced when they were a Hemel team. So expand! the game has been trying for over 100 years to expand, will the N America venture be the catalyst? It needs something!
Without folk like Mr Perez, Bernard over in Perpignan and yep DH, or even closer to home with Dr Kougash the game as a whole would struggle to stay afloat never mind expand. If sky get bored of us then its in real trouble. So maybe RFL pinning there hopes on N America and the potential market is what in the long run could save London Broncoos from becoming a short chapter in the history book of RL
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| Surely, Koukash has bailed on Salford.
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| Quote ="wire-quin"The question is do the RFL want to expand geographically?'"
Quote ="Halfdan of t'wide embrace"I think the first question is, can London pull together enough funding to be viable members of the top tier? '"
The answer is CAMRA!
Seriously! Arrange 11 Beer festivals, each one coinciding with a home game, offer thousands of free tickets and if the cameras present happen to notice swathes of empty stands, just explain it away by saying they were all in the beer tent......do this for 3 years and then you'll receive close to 2 million pounds a year of Sky Money with which to run your club....a club that costs closer to 5 million to run but has only a few hardcore and alcoholic fans willing to pay to watch it........Oh...and have a canon firing free hot-dogs into the crowd, tat's bound to attract the neigbours over their garden fences to watch the game
....I applaud Perez for the razzmatazz and sheer energy he has, but it's very very early days yet
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| Kougash has bailed on salford leaving a 1.7 mil unpaid bill. It's exactly what I am getting at.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Kougash has bailed on salford leaving a 1.7 mil unpaid bill. It's exactly what I am getting at.'"
surely he doesn't expect paying back........like someone else who you are defending to the hilt?
Debt is debt and the Dr knows that tax is due and that debt is his get out of Jail clause........Salford are bolted on for the MPG and will be replaced by Leigh or the Wolfpack in 2018
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| The 1.7 mil is unpaid bill owed to the council, nothing to do with any money that the Dr put in. More money that has not come in
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| As for salford and MPG impressed that you have such insight to know what’s going to happen in 10 months time.
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| Surely, even optimistic Salford fans can see that their side will struggle in the coming season.
The MPG might be their only chance of staying in SL.
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| It’s quite funny, it’s possible that the MPG might actually mean nothing! Are the clubs not meeting in Feb to decide on future structure?
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| No sexy signings this year as in everyone’s minds only big names mean we can deliver. It’s rather lamentable that buying in players is seen as the only way of developing. I do however share the lack of optimism as there is little in the way of big names and unfortunately no matter how good young kids are they take time to settle in. Doesn’t mean they won’t deliver though and as ever sport is a journey.
Unfortunately unless the magic money tree bears fruit we are in reality in little state (as a fully professional entity) to enter SL.
I will enter the season looking to see what the squad can deliver on the basis of my expectations. If they deliver that or better then it’s a good season. My expectations of the current squad could be first or they could be fifth, what matters is those we have play to or above their ability and play for each other.
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| SR think it’s a sensible approach. The “sexy signings”over the last few years all seemed unable to perform as expected. Yep every squad needs some grizzly old heads but maybe it’s time to embrace the youth.
You are right about the magic money tree, until it bears fruit then DH is it.
Month to go to game 1 hope we are all looking forward to it.
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