I have tried to maintain an air of positivity this season, particularly easy after the momentum generated by the blazing start, but enough is enough. I am struggling to understand how so many on here come on consistently to identify the positives, week in, week out, akin to finding a needle in a haystack.

Bottom line, our coach is inexperienced and inept, our forwards are lightweight and ineffective, our half backs are ponderous, ineffective and lack quality, our backs are ponderous, predictable and error prone, the team as a whole lacks discipline and composure, the young local players are nowhere near SL standard and nowhere near on a par with their northern equivalents; I remain totally unconvinced by the loan arrangements and what's worse there seems little chance of improvement from now to seasons end. The strangest thing is, I am not sure why it's taken me the best part of half a season to come to this overwhelming conclusion ! 42-0 at half time last night says it all really.

As a club, our potential is immense, but to exploit this potential, we need an exceptional back of house operation and a competitive, winning side on the park and I doubt these will ever be realised, certainly not by the end of the next SL franchise process.

I dont think we should get Powell out, i think he should take a number 2 role with someone else at number 1. At least Powell will learn and give us someone for the future? Problem is who is going to coach us?

Awful result. What's the point in playing the same 17 every week, when we just see the same abject performances? What is Powell's game plan exactly? We creativity, no passion. Bottom of the league here we come.

What the hell did that have to do with anything?

Nerve touched there? Wigan have a wonderful set up and are stuffed full of great local talent. Someone makes a comment about the nationality of the try scorers and we get a bite. Sorry some of them where not as far as I'm aware from Ince.

The RFL's "10-10-5" rule disadvantaged us more than any other club - Crusaders are exempt, and Catalan get all of France for their 10 'locals'. 10 years more of development, maybe it would have been OK, but that and a lack of ability to spend the same money on players as other clubs has meant our club and coach aren't playing on an equal footing. A dunder-headed decision, that makes me angry, in an age we should be past who's from where in professional sport. Who in our squad who ran out Friday would get a run in anything but the bottom four teams?
A nonsense rule that's killing the league we watch at pro level, bit by bit. And for what? A better international team? Working well, that.

Saul
I am with you, there always seems to be this talk about improving standards of home grown so the national team can be succesful
WHY? the national press and tv do not care about RL so even if we did win the four nations and or world cup, we would get non of the furor that the yawnion did! we would get half page in the broad sheets, full page in red tops and maybe a 30 second slot on the national news, that would be it, we would not get the massive surge in interest that Yawnion got.
We have a really good domestic league, compared to Yawnion its miles ahead and thats from union officials! (speaking to some of em on thus)
I agree home grown players are good for the game as a whole and lets be honest the top aussie NZ players are going to go where the money is. What i find shocking is how the imports are hyped up even more now! why would anyone PAY to watch a new imports first training session!!!!?

Good post but how big is Quins' local area?

I would guess in terms of geography and population, plenty big enough - in terms of actual rugby league players, 500-600? (That's a guess).

I'm being pretty harsh on Catalan in that post actually - I don't think they're really any better off than Quins more I think about it. My point was more that it advantaged the clubs that at that point had 10 "local" players of Super League standard. Those same clubs probably had a better and/or cheaper chance of getting the 10 "British" (Federation) players too because of geography.

We don't need to many disadvantages for things not to work out too well, historically.

Quins U-18's 32 - 28 Wiagn U-18's
Mike McMeeken scoring [size=150[u4 [/u[/sizetries!!!!!



All is now ok

The one thing to hold on to (and the big gamble) is that some of these young lads coming through will end up SL standard, and that we can stay afloat long enough for them to play for us. Don't think the RFL will let us fail frankly - they need a successful SL team in London.

I'm not quite as pessimistic as some others on here. We all knew at the start of the season it was going to be tough - rookie coach, thin squad, missing quality in key positions. Yes, our current run is dreadful, but we shouldn't be tearing our hair out and being dished out a beating by a side like Wigan; Its the defeats to Hull and Catalans which should make us more worried.

We had bad runs under McDermott too - sacking Powell mid-season solves nothing. We can either hope he's learning from what's going on and keep him as coach or we pursue this director of rugby idea, which I think has some mileage. Unfortunately the prime candidate for it (Noble) probably wouldn't be interested.

Brilliant www.league.quins.co.uk/news/13553.php

Brilliant www.league.quins.co.uk/news/13553.php

And how long will it take to achieve that?

We have had over 25years of trying and so little to show for it



I wish I was more optimistic but the longer the season goes on I think we will be lucky to be playing in front of 1,500 at the end of it. Something hugely positive needs to happen and soon, otherwise I fear this will be our last season in SL.

According to this they won!

Can they get anything right?

Under 15s: Harlequins 12 Wigan 36
Under 16s: Harlequins 6 Wigan 58
Under 18s: Harlequins 32 Wigan 28
Under 20s: Wigan 40 Harlequins 22

I think that the rule is if the ball is kicked and hits the referee and it significantly changes the path of the ball to one teams advantage (like this did) then a scrum should be awarded to the team last in possession, which was Wigan.
He definitely gave it to us first though and then changed his mind which he isn't allowed to do. Right decision in the end though and had us all a bit puzzled.


The team this year are useless, I think J O'C has improved this year, but I don't like him playing fullback, it all went wrong from his knock on, but every player had poor moments.

And hopefully castleford away is our next win in the league!

The referee is allowed to change his mind.

Didn't think they could unless the touch judge tells them something they missed or there is a new penalty eg for dissent

I was at the game friday night and on my return today was asked about Calderwoods performance . Ok he scored a walk in try but looked to have as much pace as i have and i am a little bit older than he is

What i did notice at the game was the one time he tried to run at the defence with the ball he dived into the turf a metre before a tackler got to him .Some of boys say that Wigan should have been awarded a penalty if the ref had seen that and some are saying differantly so im sure one of you guys on here can clear this up for us .

The voluntary tackle law states a player in possession shall not "deliberately and unnecessarily allow himself to be tackled by voluntarily falling on the ground when not held by an opponent."

Thanks for that Catalancs , so we presume its a penalty to the opposition ..

Didn't see it but if it happened as you say then yes.

In other words, if you are a big girl and a scaredy cat, thou shalt feel the full wrath of the referee's displeasure.

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Just watched the Superleague show and seen how easy Wigan went through the line. I think the team needs more than strong words and glum faces.