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| Quote ="The Penguin"That sounds pretty shambolic but a polite e-mail to the Hive will solve it I'm sure. They're still finding their feet as an RL venue.
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When I've travelled to the ground at the behest of the club ? Wasn't going to the game but was asked to drop some stuff from U19s game from Saturday off so changed my plans.
Won't be emailing the Hive as will just talk to Gus or Tony Rea direct & tell them. However, doubt I shall vist the Hive again, Jobsworth doesn't even start to sum up the attitude of most of the staff encountered !
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| I thought you looked good in attack in the first half and have some really good players. Farrar looked good in parts, although he was a good player when he was at Catalans, and was pleased to see Bishay play so well - deserved MOTM. Looked a better prospect than Myler if you judge it just on that game! Solomona looked handy - is Atkins really a centre? Looked like a donkey to me. Caton-Brown again looked a good player. So plenty to work with but towards the end of the second half you did look knackered and started dropping off tackles (worst being for Ormsby's try.) However, they didn't give up. You have something to work with on the field.
I appreciate you're glad to have a team still, and as someone who has lived in London and the SE for 17 years now - I've always followed London when I can even if from afar and would love to see it grow and reach a solid 5 - 10k attendance.
But I thought today was quite a dispiriting experience in comparison to the Stoop. The crowd was more like 800 I thought and was relieved when I heard it called at 1300 odd. It reminded me of going to watch an Ice Hockey game a few years back for the London Kings or whatever they were called at a sports centre over in Walthamstow Forest.
The ground isn't bad but there was just no feel that you were watching top level sport in a top level environment. I used to really enjoy going to the Stoop as you had the band afterwards, the players coming in and you were able to carry on into Richmond etc. The last London game I went to was Leeds at the end last season and the difference in atmosphere etc. was marked. That had 2,300 which was considered a poor crowd at the time.
The main thing that came across to me is that there is no plan to grow the club or the attendance. DH has basically abdicated responsibility to TK and thinking that the marketing team for a small non-league football club is going to suddenly starting growing and marketing the Broncos to a mass audience is nuts. I'd be interested to see a presentation of the marketing plan split out per event (match). But I think we know there probably isn't one. I've seen comments on here such as - it'll be a great atmosphere with 3k in etc. But that's more than double today's attendance - how is that going to happen?
There's a great business / sales book called "Hope isn't a strategy" - Gus should read it.
It's really sad - I always thought at the Stoop you had a chance but I just don't see how the club will grow at The Hive. The attendance at The Hive puts paid to the myth that people didn't go as you played at The Stoop / were in Union territory etc.
Anyway - sorry for the negativity as it was a good game, with some good tries scored by both teams and at least we can still watch top flight RL here - I think you have a good chance of staying up and hopefully Catalans will pick up. It would be typical RL if you and CD get relegated.
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| Quote ="ChiswickWire"But I thought today was quite a dispiriting experience in comparison to the Stoop. The crowd was more like 800 I thought and was relieved when I heard it called at 1300 odd. It reminded me of going to watch an Ice Hockey game a few years back for the London Kings or whatever they were called at a sports centre over in Walthamstow Forest.
The ground isn't bad but there was just no feel that you were watching top level sport in a top level environment. I used to really enjoy going to the Stoop as you had the band afterwards, the players coming in and you were able to carry on into Richmond etc. The last London game I went to was Leeds at the end last season and the difference in atmosphere etc. was marked. That had 2,300 which was considered a poor crowd at the time.
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Cheers for a view from an 'outsider'.
Did you sit in the main stand or were you on the terrace?
Having been twice to the Hive, I feel that the atmosphere has been better than the Stoop but that could be because I can easily get a seat in the middle of the main stand where most of the Broncos noise seems to come from. I'd be interested to see a pic of what the stand looks on match day during the game.
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| Quote ="Erogenous Jones"When I've travelled to the ground at the behest of the club ? Wasn't going to the game but was asked to drop some stuff from U19s game from Saturday off so changed my plans.
Won't be emailing the Hive as will just talk to Gus or Tony Rea direct & tell them. However, doubt I shall vist the Hive again, Jobsworth doesn't even start to sum up the attitude of most of the staff encountered !'"
I think you have missed the point here. Broncos no longer have control of tickets and who does\does not get into the ground for free.
If Broncos are giving you a pass without ensuring that the Hive are aware of it and have approved it then why should they let you in?
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| Quote ="Snoopy"Its a pity we lost Nesi and couldn't play Solo on the wing. More players in their natural position has to make us better you'd think.'"
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| Quote ="Colly2"Cheers for a view from an 'outsider'.
Did you sit in the main stand or were you on the terrace?
Having been twice to the Hive, I feel that the atmosphere has been better than the Stoop but that could be because I can easily get a seat in the middle of the main stand where most of the Broncos noise seems to come from. I'd be interested to see a pic of what the stand looks on match day during the game.'"
Hi there - I was on the terrace - I normally prefer to sit in the stand as you get a better view of the game but thought I'd go old school as you could change ends! The atmosphere did seem better in the stand but it was the whole match day experience I was meaning rather than a few chants.
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| Quote ="meliferra"If Broncos are giving you a pass without ensuring that the Hive are aware of it and have approved it then why should they let you in?'"
Sounds like something Gus should be dealing with.
If he wasn't far too busy doing whatever else he does as superfluous CEO.
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| I saw him chatting with Blake Solly pre game.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"I saw him chatting with Blake Solly pre game.'"
Perhaps the RFL are going to head hunt him.
Papua New Guinea style.
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| Had a smashing day out at the hive yesterday. Lovely ground. Nice easy walk from the tube station. Went in the main stand as it's higher up than the terracing. Cask beer on in the bars below. Good selection of food although price of pies are a bit steep.
The main stand seemed to me to be about 3/4 full. Maybe about a hundred in the dressing room stand and a couple of hundred on the terracing.
Stuart pearce was there watching be good if you could get him on board in some promo role.
Going to need to start boosting the home support otherwise you will see a few three figure crowds.
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| Stuart Pearce is a Wire fan, he's been to a few of our games now.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"Stuart Pearce is a Wire fan, he's been to a few of our games now.'"
Stuart Pearce started his football career with Wealdstone FC. If Wealdstone fans hear he visited the Hive they'll go mental. Dread to think how they would react to him promoting the place!!
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"Stuart Pearce is a Wire fan, he's been to a few of our games now.'"
Really? Through what connection? He grew up 15 minutes from The Hive in Kingsbury and started his career at Wealdstone FC. Maybe he is an honorary Bronco now we have moved to his back yard
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| I think it stems from him being England manager and trying different management techniques, he's been a guest of Tony Smith on several occasions.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"I think it stems from him being England manager and trying different management techniques, he's been a guest of Tony Smith on several occasions.'"
Nice, I did not know that. Thank you. Great to see some admirers from other sports/backgrounds like Sir Bradley Wiggins, Ryan Giggs & Russel Crowe.
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| Quote ="dids858"
The main stand seemed to me to be about 3/4 full. Maybe about a hundred in the dressing room stand and a couple of hundred on the terracing.
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I wish!
That'd be about 2500.
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| Quote ="ChiswickWire"But I thought today was quite a dispiriting experience in comparison to the Stoop. The crowd was more like 800 I thought and was relieved when I heard it called at 1300 odd. It reminded me of going to watch an Ice Hockey game a few years back for the London Kings or whatever they were called at a sports centre over in Walthamstow Forest.
The ground isn't bad but there was just no feel that you were watching top level sport in a top level environment. I used to really enjoy going to the Stoop as you had the band afterwards, the players coming in and you were able to carry on into Richmond etc. The last London game I went to was Leeds at the end last season and the difference in atmosphere etc. was marked. That had 2,300 which was considered a poor crowd at the time.
The main thing that came across to me is that there is no plan to grow the club or the attendance. DH has basically abdicated responsibility to TK and thinking that the marketing team for a small non-league football club is going to suddenly starting growing and marketing the Broncos to a mass audience is nuts. I'd be interested to see a presentation of the marketing plan split out per event (match). But I think we know there probably isn't one. I've seen comments on here such as - it'll be a great atmosphere with 3k in etc. But that's more than double today's attendance - how is that going to happen?
There's a great business / sales book called "Hope isn't a strategy" - Gus should read it.
It's really sad - I always thought at the Stoop you had a chance but I just don't see how the club will grow at The Hive. The attendance at The Hive puts paid to the myth that people didn't go as you played at The Stoop / were in Union territory etc.'"
This is a very eloquent articulation of my problems with the Hive move.
Unfortunately it has been done, there's no going back. I have absolutely no confidence in the people running the show any more but I still want to watch top flight rugby league and have a few beers with my mates. I'm left with no choice. And ironically, because there's no expectations and we're low on the underperforming Aussie factor, this season might just be the most enjoyable in years.
Which just goes to show what a shambles it's been.
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| It does strike me that The Hive seems to be somewhere you go to watch a game and then go home. Which is a bit worrying given how few of us in the south are currently likely to turn up just to watch a match. At Quins we had the potential turn it into a bit of a day out with the band, a wide range of pubs and restaurants near etc. It may be my lack of knowledge of the area but I didn't sense that on Sunday.
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| Quote ="RLLDN"Nice, I did not know that. Thank you. Great to see some admirers from other sports/backgrounds like Sir Bradley Wiggins, Ryan Giggs & Russel Crowe.'"
They were at The Hive yesterday?
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Quote ="Euclid"They were at The Hive yesterday?'"
Lol, afraid not, but one day maybe,ha.
Btw-Anyone else know any other well known Rugby League fans like Giggs et al?
Ryan Giggs Loves Rugby League Video:
youtu.be/l5i5nRJ8Whw
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Quote ="Euclid"They were at The Hive yesterday?'"
Lol, afraid not, but one day maybe,ha.
Btw-Anyone else know any other well known Rugby League fans like Giggs et al?
Ryan Giggs Loves Rugby League Video:
youtu.be/l5i5nRJ8Whw
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| Quote ="PC Plum" But fortunately our future in SL is dependant what happens on the field and not on the terraces as far as I am aware ?'"
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| Quote ="Halfdan of t'wide embrace"It does strike me that The Hive seems to be somewhere you go to watch a game and then go home. Which is a bit worrying given how few of us in the south are currently likely to turn up just to watch a match. At Quins we had the potential turn it into a bit of a day out with the band, a wide range of pubs and restaurants near etc. It may be my lack of knowledge of the area but I didn't sense that on Sunday.'"
Few London fans around Baker street yesterday. We looked at beer in the evening and there doesnt seem to be much around the Hive. We stuck around for a couple of pint in the members bar under the main stand, the bar at the other side looked busy as we left.
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| Quote ="nadera78"There's some leeway given what happened this off-season but, as you say, it's a long-running issue. Really, there's no excuse for not being as fit as everyone else in the league. Not being good enough is one thing, but not being fit is unacceptable.'"
Technically speaking, if two teams are equally fit but one is technically better then the technically worse team will tire because the better team will make them do more work, both in defence and attack. That's not to say that the Broncos are as fit as Warrington, mind
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| Erogenous, which pass do you have
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| Quote ="The Penguin"This is a very eloquent articulation of my problems with the Hive move.
Unfortunately it has been done, there's no going back. I have absolutely no confidence in the people running the show any more but I still want to watch top flight rugby league and have a few beers with my mates. I'm left with no choice. And ironically, because there's no expectations and we're low on the underperforming Aussie factor, this season might just be the most enjoyable in years.
Which just goes to show what a shambles it's been.'"
Spot on Penguin and Chiswick Wire (although I stand to be shot at as I have not attended a match there yet). Trouble is I don't feel that the product is top flight although the Broncos are in the top tier currently. I have watched 2 excellent games of RL so far this season and am looking forward to the AMS on Sunday.
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