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| Quote ="crashmon"would Ealing have us back? After all DH has a reputation of falling out with all our previous landlords.... Ebbsfleet might be next, in which case the club is finished'"
The guy at Ealing strikes me as a no nonsense type businessman. If Hughes were to offer 800k up front now 4 years rent at Cherry Red) for the next 4 years, with all the sides playing/training together, then that's 800k they didn't have half an hour ago.....not be turned down flat.
The straw man debate about corporate hospo is moot.....we've begged normal fans to fork out more rather than sell corporate to...er....corporates. if need be, buy/hire a Marquee and employ a food truck to feed the corporates, but I can't believe that we can't negotiate better terms.....I suspect we weren't getting the numbers to make it profitable.....but we need to think outside the box.....13 events.....not announce a KO time and hope for the best.
Ebbsfleet would see 25% more drop away........if not more. The club would need to spend another lump sum on marketing and without a professional marketer in place, they'll waste their money again.....but I don't see Hughes accepting a 4th tier soccer ground, especially when it's so far away from the training pitches....I see Ealing as a no brainer, but for the sake of everyone, keep Hughes/Loubser out of the negotiations.......
......the lack of anything this weekend just gone makes me think that they'll clock off now and look to reboot in January......what they should be doing now is using the final 3 games to get as many people through the doors, free or otherwise and showcase the hospo on offer in 2023.....start with the local chamber of commerce.....get all the members to a game and wine and dine them....
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| Quote ="orangeman"......as I say, it's his club to do with, but fewer and fewer peoe will care each year if he is allowed to continue unquestioned.'"
I don't really care if he's wasting his own money but he has consistently taken us backwards with his terrible decisions. Not good for the club which should be bigger than one person but unfortunately isn't.
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| Quote ="orangeman"......the lack of anything this weekend just gone makes me think that they'll clock off now and look to reboot in January......what they should be doing now is using the final 3 games to get as many people through the doors, free or otherwise and showcase the hospo on offer in 2023.....'"
The club might argue they are offering great deals to get people to the last few games and that is a positive. But what is the target audience and how are they promoting this ? How are they encouraging people who do show up to come back ? Needs more than the game itself.
I had some folks sat behind me yesterday who were clearly there for the first time. They didn't know the rules though. How difficult is it to explain the basics to folks in a flyer ? I bet they didn't know where the pub was hidden either. Nothing at all for kids.
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| We’ve been down this argument a few times now. The Match day experience is uncoordinated and poor. I agree when schools and scouts etc clubs begin again Broncos should be all over it with free tickets but really it’s too late in the season for a big push now they need to go again next season.
A flyer explaining the game would be a useful option as would team sheets or programmes. Some people had team sheets some didn’t some kind of orderly handing out of them by staff would make sense. I noted they had a fire sale of Broncos products at very good prices and doing good levels of sales but I think that many of those products hadn’t been available at the ground before or regularly. I think that’s something they might want to think about as a minimum. For me the massive gap in home games has holed this season below the water line commercially. I don’t know if it’s going to be a common thing. If so, I can’t see this move working ever. As Orange has said corporate is really for business (corporations) they need to look at their whole approach again.The good news is the learning points are there in bold technicolour all they need to do is apply them for next season and crowds may grow ... but nothing is guaranteed on field competence from the start of the season would really help to get people coming back. Remember that Widnes game... big crowd, press advertising really poor performance game over within 20 minutes....and then there was the Whitehaven game........what a way to start a season and drive up crowds. Nothing is as easy as it seems from the armchair but that was a really flawed approach to relaunch success.
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| Quote ="BigTime" A flyer explaining the game would be a useful option as would team sheets or programmes. Some people had team sheets some didn’t some kind of orderly handing out of them by staff would make sense.'" Team sheets were available on the end of the bar in the pub. I didn't notice this until after the curtain raiser.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"Team sheets were available on the end of the bar in the pub. I didn't notice this until after the curtain raiser.'"
I did pop down there but didn’t see them. You’d think they would put them in the main concourse as well. It’s all a bit random. Still hopefully they are learning what works and what doesn’t. I say ‘they’ but I’m far from convinced there is much of a ‘they’. They’ve got the social media/comms/match day announcement thing working much much better than at the start of the year. Much more upbeat, professional and of the appropriate standard but it seems to me that there are still massive gaps in the overall infrastructure. It may well be a financial thing in which case it is what it is but it’s also chicken and egg situation: you have a well. publcised, smoothly run product you start getting good sales which drives the whole thing forward-virtuous circle. Lots for management to think about.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"Team sheets were available on the end of the bar in the pub. I didn't notice this until after the curtain raiser.'"
Quote ="BigTime"I did pop down there but didn’t see them.'"
Quote ="BigTime" A flyer explaining the game would be a useful option as would team sheets or programmes. Some people had team sheets some didn’t some kind of orderly handing out of them by staff would make sense'"
[url=https://issuu.com/hashtagdigitalmedia/docs/sfc_v_stockport_county_fc?fr=sNTE0NDE5NjExOTIA SOLUTION IS AVAILABLE[/url is someone was willing to put in the hours to edit it........
1. Available from Friday night and up to date.
2. Adverts for our major sponsors throughout the season
3. A guide for newbies
4. Competitions for Kids
5. Downloadable to read on the train trip home
6. Multi-media/Modern
7. A page for the LBSA/Volunteers...community stuff.
Maybe someone should forward this to Loubser? [urlhttps://www.hashtagdigitalmedia.co.uk/testimonials[/url......
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| Online proggies are fast becoming the norm at lower level non league football. Usually a simple PDF, not interactive, making it even easier. They usually put posters with a QR code up to make it easy for fans to download.
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| Quote ="Halfdan of t'wide embrace"Online proggies are fast becoming the norm at lower level non league football. Usually a simple PDF, not interactive, making it even easier. They usually put posters with a QR code up to make it easy for fans to download.'"
Even if we did have a programme there should be something aimed at newcomers who may not buy one. A pop up display near the entrance explaining the basics would be good.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"Even if we did have a programme there should be something aimed at newcomers who may not buy one. A pop up display near the entrance explaining the basics would be good.'"
We used to have a beginners guide in programmes.....but then again, we used to have a lot of things that Hughes has deemed unnecessary.
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| stolen text from realbuzz.com
Rugby League rules are vastly different than Union, so make sure you read our guide to make sure you know the difference.
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On the Rugby League pitch
The pitch is rectangular in shape with a set of H-shaped posts at each end situated on the goal or try line.
A Rugby League match is 80 minutes long and consists of two 40 minutes halves with the sides changing ends (the direction in which they attack) after half-time.
Rugby League teams field 13 players on the pitch and are allowed four reserves on the bench.
Aim of Rugby League and scoring
The basic aim is naturally to score more points than your opponents. Points are scored in Rugby League on the following basis:
‘Try’ — 4 points. A try is scored when the ball is grounded over the try line of the opposing team.
‘Conversion’ — 2 points. Following a try a team is given an extra opportunity to score points by kicking the ball from a position directly related to where the try was scored. To score these ‘extra’ two points, the kicker must get the ball through the uprights of the posts and above the crossbar.
‘Drop goal’ — 1 point. Scored by drop kicking the ball so that it passes between the posts and above the crossbar.
‘Penalty goal’ — 2 points. After an infringement, the team awarded a penalty can take a kick at goal and will gain two points if successful.
Basics of Rugby League
The game starts with a kick-off as one team kicks the ball into the opposition half and then attempts to gain possession. The team in possession then attempt to move the ball up the pitch by passing it to hand or kicking it.
There are rules concerning how the ball must be passed and for how long teams are able to keep possession before it passes to their opponents. The most basic rules are:
The ball when passed by hand has to be passed backwards.
Player can pass the ball as many times as they like until one of them is tackled (brought down legally and held) in possession.
Teams have possession of the ball for six tackles or plays. On the sixth play, teams usually elect to kick the ball long down the field to gain territory. If they do not kick, after the sixth tackle the ball is ‘handed over’ to the other team.
When tackled, the ball carrier plays the ball backwards by foot along the ground to a teammate behind them.
When a player has been tackled, his opponent must release him to enable him to play the ball.
A scrum, consisting of six players per team is used to re-start the game after the ball has been ‘knocked-on’ or fumbled forward or when a forward pass has occurred. A scrum is also formed when a player is tackled into touch or when the ball is kicked into touch. Scrums are not contested like they are in Rugby Union.
Players can be ruled offside if they are in front of a teammate who is in possession and they are deemed to be interfering with play. Players are not allowed to touch the ball if they were further up the field than a teammate who has kicked the ball upfield i.e. only players who are behind the player kicking the ball are allowed to touch it.
Penalties can be awarded in other circumstances such as high tackles, hitting an opponent, tripping, kicking the ball when a player is attempting to pick it up, using foul or abusive language. Offenders can be given a yellow or red card, a yellow resulting in a 10 minute spell in the sin-bin to cool off.
There are of course a number of other laws and rules in Rugby League that we haven’t covered here in our attempt not to baffle you from the outset, but the more you watch or play the game, the more clear these other rules will become. Good luck getting to grips with Rugby League.
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| Quote ="orangeman"We used to have a beginners guide in programmes.....but then again, we used to have a lot of things that Hughes has deemed unnecessary.'"
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| Quote ="wire-quin"The players have snapped them up'"
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| Eccles confirms he will be at the club in some position next season.
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| Hardly earth shattering news.
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An attempt at polishing a turd is at least an attempt......although the news isn't going to set the world alight, they're at least trying. Problem is, how many of 5he choir are left to preach too?
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| Quote ="jbuzza"Eccles confirms he will be at the club in some position next season.'"
With the way DH and Loubster's mind works, he will probably be in Dustys suit as the mascot, as we yet again get a L1 coach, as after all that worked so well last time
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| Think the words used in the post match interview today was sending out a message to the fans “interim head coach” Mike Eccles
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Think the words used in the post match interview today was sending out a message to the fans “interim head coach” Mike Eccles'"
A number of factors at play here, but as I have often pointed out, Hughes track record of selecting managers as opposed to "getting lucky" like Henderson, Ward and now Eccles is absolutely dire......ABSOLUTELY.
Mac is a bang average coach who achieved something at Leeds that basically I could have done. In fact, it could be argued that McGuire et al coached themselves. Again at Toronto, he simply bought SL with a SL squad, which was then found out to actually not be SL standard at all, he achieved nothing of note when with us and he's so far behind Leigh this year he may well be out of work come October......
Powell......not so much out of his depth as a drowned corpse
Grima......less said the better, but looked like a bloke who put "qualified brain surgeon" on his CV because he once put a sticking plaster on a grazed knee......
Coleman......highly spoken of coach from the foot of L1 delivers a L1 side.... he makes Powell & Grima look like good appointments.....
If Eccles has said NO, then fair enough, but from the interview earlier in the week, it would seem that he is mulling it over and has requested clarity on what he is allowed spend.......if Hughes is of the opinion that this squad is good enough to challenge the top 2 next year (Fev and Toulouse) he needs his bumps felt.
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| Pretty sure he does not actually want the job full time. Just hints from around the bazaars and wording of stuff
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Pretty sure he does not actually want the job full time. Just hints from around the bazaars and wording of stuff'"
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| Quote ="jbuzza"I wonder who exactly was speaking highly of Mustard.'"
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