because they were away..

Thought the Saints players blended in very nicely with the grass.

And there was me thinking that the South End was now a building site and not being used for spectators. Easy to be confused at Quins

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Well you did say the South End

Football seems to be able to get it right. There are either clear rules or guidelines on kit to avoid colour clashes in socks, shorts and tops. Sometimes teams are forced to wear shorts or socks that aren't from their secondor third strip. This is probably to help officials on whose hand or foot it was touching the ball but also to enable clarity to a television audience.

Why the rfl can't be bothered to bring in a rule to ensure some clarity is beyond me. You see it rather too often on tv where both teams end up in similar kit when they do have another choice but for some reason don't take it.

Bizarre reasons such as its their away kit or such like is a rather poor excuse. The purpose of the 'away' strip was a change of colours if both teams shared a similar colour scheme. Saints didn't so why they thought a green kit with shorts and socks the same colours as Quins was a suitable choice. Crass marketing or deliberately trying to confuse the officials.

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I don't see how the blue and claret could possibly be similar to the green but maybe that's why Quins lost!!

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Saints in Green - Quins not same Simple!!! Even socks not same Teams not have same name go compare!!!!

I thought the primary motivation was to double shirt sales to fans.

Any color clash was because of the RFL rules, they insist on the away team playing in away colors. I,m sure St Helens would have preferred to play in the home strip.

Was it sunny yesterday?

I think you will find the responsibility is with the home team.

So Quins requested that Saints turn out in something resembling military camouflage?

The bottom line is that clubs such as Saints, Wigan, the two Hull clubs etc. traditionally have smart, instantly identifiable shirts. If you see a picture of one of their players in their home shirt you don’t need a caption to tell you which club he’s playing for. I think that’s great, and I like seeing these clubs run out at the Stoop in these colours. I just think it’s a genuine shame when they switch to meaningless nondescript change colours for no good reason other than to plug these replicas to their own travelling support. It was also noticeable that very few of the visiting fans on Saturday were wearing the green replica. The North Stand was a sea of white & red. (Although I myself unwittingly turned up in a dark green T shirt!)

"I just think it’s a genuine shame when they switch to meaningless nondescript change colours for no good reason other than to plug these replicas to their own travelling support."

not so... I think you'll find that the RFL list what colours each team is playing each week and match the ref and his team's colours against them.
The refs team were clearly in white.
This is normal practice for all prof league football/rugby

That's correct, the RFL do that, and have managed to stuff it up many times this season already. In my own experience alone:
- Hull KR wore dark grey shirts/shorts/socks away to Celtic, who play in black shirts/shorts/socks
- Rovers wore the same strip away to Hull, who also predominantly play in black.
- Quins turned up for the away match at Rovers in the as-stipulated-by-the-RFL mainly white away kit, to play a KR team whose home kit is also mainly white. Rovers agreed to wear their own away kit (at home!) at the last minute because it was on telly and would have been even more of a joke than usual... but then because the Refs had brought an orange kit (not expecting Rovers to be in grey and orange) you even saw Dobson pass the ball to the ref at one point, eventually leading to a Quins try.

The relevant department really needs to get their act in order on this one, it is amateurish.

This is just too daft for words. The RFL obviously hasn't learned from that farcical televised match between Hull and Bradford a year or two ago, when both teams wore black & white kits.

I don't suppose that there's any possibility of you giving a straightforward answer to a question is there?

As you're apparently unable to understand, I'll try to make it a bit clearer for you: "I sit at the south end of the =redEast Stand." That OK for you? Now how about answering the question?

If the question is-Was there a colour clash between green tops and black tops with 4 other colours on the front other than green, on a sunny day in Jul the answer for me is No.

At no time could I not distinguish between Quins players, Saints players and the referee or his assistants.

Fine. Then the problem is mainly mine, though some others on here have commented that more easily distinguishable kits could easily be achieved.

Even I could pick out the match officials OK.



As it happens, I'm seeing my optician next week. Maybe I could ask for the game to be replayed when I have my new specs.?

Oh FFS. From the back both teams were playing in all black. From the front they were both playing in mainly black. The alternative was to have Saints in predominantly white. What part of that different idea seems worse to you exactly? It is unprofessional, end of.

In the Premier League, they even ask teams to make minor kit changes so that the shorts and socks of the opposing teams are contrasting light/dark. In the NFL one team must play in a dark shirt, and the other in white. Those are the two most successful professional sports leagues on the planet, my gut tells me they know what they're doing...

there fans supporting two teams probably doesn't help

Actually, the teams have to follow the kit directives given by the RFL, and the match referee makes the final decision on whether kits clash or not in accordance with the Operational rules.

Were they- I must have been at a different match. Unless you count shadows from the stands

I'm up north for our match at Odsal on Sunday and was thinking of taking in Leeds v Warrington on the Saturday evening. Presumably I can look forward to both teams playing in variations of blue & yellow hoops with the ref wearing white. Or perhaps both teams will be in a predominantly white kit witth the ref in orange? I can hardly wait to find out!

The home team willl play in their primary ('home') kit, the away team will play in their ('away') alternate kit, unless there is a clear kit clash, for example Friday night where the predominant colour of Leeds' alternate kit was white, directly clashing with Wigan's primary kit. As far as I could see on Sunday, there was no clash whatsoever between the Quins' kit and Saints' kit, the player's were clearly distinguishable.