Gleeson next week- A bit of experience against him would be good

We could try coaxing Tony Martin out of retirement!



Wonder what Tyrone Smith is up to these days?

Really depressing watching SLTV. The defending is dreadful. They just melt away..........as usual

Sorry guys, but you are a squad assembled with the sole aim of winning games.....you are, we are told, being paid to the cap, so start ing playing like you want to earn your wages.
Mr Rea.......fans will not flock to watch a team that "will have their moments".

For too long, failure has been accepted at the club...it has got to the extent where it has almost become expected

Gleeson was awful against Hull KR.

Agree 100% but.....He'll "look" better against us.......

ANyone looks good against us I say put the youth out and we will get our first win

Exactly what Rupe used to say.




Out of interest, I'm wondering if people think Dixon is a good defender?

Tackles made: 11
Tackles missed: 10

Cue all Dixon apologists coming out and telling us it isn't a wingers job to tackle etc.

nope....he used to say that the harlequins name was turning people away......he was wrong!

It isn't. Nor is it the FB.
Defence should get to the man sooner.

Wow.

That was one of the things he said, yes. He would also go on about thinkgs akin to>

[iMr Rea.......fans will not flock to watch a team that "will have their moments".

For too long, failure has been accepted at the club...it has got to the extent where it has almost become expected[/i

as you said.

It was one of the factors and also The Stoop, we are just an add on!

Why look at stats over 4 games and not at his figures over about 30 games (which aren't fantastic either)?

I think he's a good scrambling defender because of his speed but there's plenty of room for development in terms of how he reads unfolding play.

He's a marked man now though...the oppo are putting him under a lot of pressure and I guess he's feeling it a bit.

Second seasons either go one way or the other...let's hope he continues to develop in a positive manor or he will end up like poor old Will Sharp (the best player England never had!...according to Brian Mac).

They are disgusting stats

What do Dornys look like

and the big centre

and Witt

Lets get some facts on the table

Witt is one of the better tacklers, percentage wise (made 45, missed 5)...lots of worse offenders., mainly amongst the yoof.

Our best tackler is Fusi...81 made, only 1 missed!

Oh, Dorny's stats : made 30, missed 6.

All in all, defence is not our strong point.

FWIW I couldn't be bothered looking last years up. I just offered up the 2013 data and made no comment on it.

Listy's correct. Having watched small segments of games on SLTV, I notice that people rightly point out our defensive woes, but never seem to mention him as he's a bit of a gun player in attack.

Fair enough.

When making comparisons, we need to remember that defending in the middle unit is "easiest" (95% or better is good going) and that wingers and FBs have the poorest stats because they are making (often 1 on 1) tackles when the defence has already failed earlier in the play - 75% in these spots is impressive.

But I note that no team has missed more tackles than the Broncos this year and several individuals have terrible looking defensive stats after 4 games - though someone's record over 4 games can be misleading.

I do understand the sentiment that a winger is on his todd compared to being in the middle. But...Wingers and fullbacks should be able to tackle. If you can't, you shouldn't be in first grade.

Not sure why people seem to be saying, the defence has FAILED in the middle.

It was pretty clear in the Widnes game that he was singled out, presumably the other coaches are getting their teams to do likewise. I still reckon he's ability to come good, he just hasn't got the element of surprise about him that he had last season.