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| So why not make it be played after our Dewsbury game at Trailfinders. The RFL could have got behind it and promoted it hard. Done something positive for the game in London for a change.
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| We don’t know that the RFL didn’t want to get behind it, you are assuming Toronto would have been interested in playing it as a double header with us, or anyone else, how would the gate be split?
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| Quote ="Bostwick"Done something positive for the game in London for a change.'"
Whilst I think that the RFL are as much use as a chocolate Tea Spoon, they have tried many times to assist London Broncos and have always been rebuffed by the man at the helm......it isn't their job to help us and Toronto playing at the Skolars is as much to do with the Skolars being proactive as it is Toronto being homeless......I would love to hear stories of Jason inviting the Canadians to play home games at ours but you and I know that it never happened, whilst the Skolars have a track record of understanding marketing event games..........so yep, the RFL are useless, just not in this instance.
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| Oh CMG, the suggestion was made by the club when it was first came up.
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| Quote ="Bostwick"Oh CMG, [uthe suggestion[/u was made by the club when it was first came up.'"
Suggestion?
Jesus wept......the moment it became common knowledge to the clubs that Toronto wouldn't be playing "at home" we should have been on the blower to Manchester or wherever they are based and offered to host them......as it is, 1,542 witnessed the Wolfpack v Skolars last year....whilst we only managed 1,205 this year (and 758 in the cup last)....which of the two London outfits do you reckon is the better option for selling tickets?
What odds on Toronto v Fax drawing a bigger gate than we do a few hours earlier v Dewsbury?....not that it'll matter to the bloke at the top, so long as he gets to watch "his" team and feel warm and fuzzy because he props us up?
Things like hosting double headers don't happen just because someone suggested it......they happen because people are prepared to step up and put in the hard work and hours to make them happen.....the Skolars get 1,000 for their pre-cc final jamboree each year......it's something they started and have stuck with it.......IIRC it started when we were Harlequins Rugby League playing at the Stoop.......3 grounds and a name change later, not to mention relegation from the top flight and we still think "suggestions" will pave the way
Here's the job description for Neil Reynolds at the club...
Quote Covering all aspects of sponsorship acquisition and media coverage of the club including social media, website upkeep, video coverage and liaising with both broadcast and print press.
Building relationships with sponsors from inception to activation ensuring their journey is beneficial to both parties
On top of this I announce the matches and am also a qualified Sports Journalist.'"
...no mention of attracting fans to games......it would seem that the downright arrogance of Mr H knows no limits...he is still of the opinion that sticking posts in the ground and announcing KO times is enough when the evidence in front of him states that it clearly isn't......when he either dies or simply has had enough, we will plummet like a stone, passing the Skolars on the way down......
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| Yet season ticket numbers up 33% on last year.
Maybe Toronto were not interested in a double header with us. Ever considered that ?
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Yet season ticket numbers up 33% on last year.
Maybe Toronto were not interested in a double header with us. Ever considered that ?'"
what's 33% of SFA?
We had 2,156 ST holders in 2008........we have about 325 now...let's pat St Dave on the back some more
As for not interested......Toronto and their decision makers wouldn't now the difference between the Broncos and the Skolars, let alone point out their respective grounds on an A-2-Z.
Also, whilst the ownership of the Skolars DO have a clue how to run an event based business, our own lord and master doesn't....he's admitted as much but he still won't employ someone to do it......so we get the announcer from London Scottish in charge of sponsorship......genius
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| 33% is better than 25% or 0 or a drop.
See your looking backwards again dog, pointless, you can’t change the past.
You talked about attracting fans and pick out one individual, on last year more fans have been attracted and the individual you picked out has done the job he is paid for, sponsorship income is up on last year.
As for Toronto, that’s quite an assumption you make.
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| Quote ="Call Me God"Whilst I think that the RFL are as much use as a chocolate Tea Spoon, they have tried many times to assist London Broncos and have always been rebuffed by the man at the helm......it isn't their job to help us and Toronto playing at the Skolars is as much to do with the Skolars being proactive as it is Toronto being homeless......I would love to hear stories of Jason inviting the Canadians to play home games at ours but you and I know that it never happened, whilst the Skolars have a track record of understanding marketing event games..........so yep, the RFL are useless, just not in this instance.'"
How do you know there wasn't communication about this and perhaps some idiots who are running up debts everywhere thought of themselves so highly they wanted more than half of the gate as it would be their game that was the main event?
Would you let someone who already owes you money throw a party in your house alongside yours but expect the lions share of the takings?
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| “Just watching Toronto playing Dewsbury, Robert Hicks is the referee. Pulling out all the stops for them are the RFL.”
Bosty am assuming from your comment that you are saying it’s a good thing they put hicks on the game. Can’t knock him for the performance.
For rams thought Worrincy was excellent
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| Quote ="northernbloke"1. 33% is better than 25% or 0 or a drop.'"
WoW....well spotted.....how did you miss the 2,000+ to 300 comment?
Quote ="northernbloke" 2. See your looking backwards again dog, pointless, you can’t change the past. '"
No.....you can't change it but you can learn from it.....but whilst St Dave is in charge, NOT A CHANCE!
VB paid £45,000 to be on our shirts an in our bar in 2003...........ask Monkey Lover what our total sponsorship income is now.......it ain't 20% of that figure........
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| Dog, you are ranting again, it’s gone it’s the past, it’s pointless harping on about what was! What’s important is now! It’s better than last year which has to be good.
No one is denying broncos are far from where they have been, but constantly harping on about our financial backer achieves nothing.
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| See TWP have let westerman and QLT go, QLT could be an interesting one for them to replace.
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| My question is. When did we last have a top four Super League referee in a regular season game?
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| Quote ="northernbloke"See TWP have let westerman and QLT go, QLT could be an interesting one for them to replace.'"
In my view Westerman would make a very good addition
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| Quote ="northernbloke"See TWP have let westerman and QLT go, QLT could be an interesting one for them to replace.'"
Already replaced by O'Brien, I think.
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| Quote ="Bostwick"My question is. When did we last have a top four Super League referee in a regular season game?'"
Well at some point in a Super League season and it might even have been this century. Mind you there is a whole other debate about what whether that was for punishment for not performing earlier in their season or whether we merited it.
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| Westerman will go to SL
Why would we get a SL ref when we play in the championship? Maybe one that gets dropped due to poor performance.
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| Quote ="Exiled down south"Westerman will go to SL
=#FF0000Why would we get a SL ref when we play in the championship? Maybe one that gets dropped due to poor performance.'"
Wasn't the case put forward, with the advent of the middle 8's, that Championship contenders for those '8's' be allocated SL refs, to prepare the clubs for the end of the season? If you get SL refs this season, you should be flattered - at least until you realise they seem to interpret the laws differently to Championship refs!
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| Robert Hicks was the referee at the Dewsbury v Toronto game. For some reason.
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| I missed most of the pre game chat, but their was something mentioned about the Batley game, and had i5 been a different ref, the result might have been different, not really sure how but hey.
So only summising but maybe the RFL thought the game against Dewsbury would be close so they made a decision to put an experienced full time ref on to stop the complainers, it actually worked in Dewsbury favour in this game.
What’s the problem? Ben Thaler goes out nad Refs community games!
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| Fast five flag Rugby is something new! I know try tag were at new river stadium on Sat, maybe they saw the potential of non contact participation. Will be interesting to see if they can turn participants into fans of the game.
Sadly it does not seem to be the case in London try tag community. Despite the efforts of the try tag management a lot of players still don’t make the link with try tag and Rugby league.
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| They've now signed Matt Russell from Wire. Where does it end??
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| Well we all know the aspirations. Salary cap question is brought to my nd again, and where the money is coming from and can it be sustained.
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