A drop would simply not work, people in London have such a wide choice of Top Sport if they want to see lower division RL they have London Skolars RL

It's a controversial as saying perhaps send the top two teams in Super League into the Championship for 3 seasons and then it would allow some others teams to win build up their attendances and anyway the two teams sent down their fans would still watch a winning team so attract large crowds, don't think so!

I hope it works for the Crusaders as they have had more than 4,000 sign to back them, but I wonder if they do stay in the town why not become Wrexham Crusaders?

Would you be interested in some magic beans for your laptop

As a St Helens fan you prob dont want my input on this thread, it cant be helpful to the club to keep moving around London, A fan base is formed and the aim is to expand this over time. I dont know the geography of the diff grounds uv played at.London is such a vast place where as up north we`ve grown up from school supporting our town teams, I totally endorse having a London team and it would be brilliant for the image of the game and media exposure if London Broncos, or whatever name was generating 15,000 plus crowds. See you all on saturday i will be down there with family to watch the saints

...I played for London Irish in the 80's.....It took 2 seasons before I purchased a replica Quins shirt...I have no love of the Quins Brand at all....... as for the rebranding making a Huge difference, I would suspect yout definition of Huge and mine may differ somewhat. You named a few who have left since the Quins branding came into being.....a handful of people, but the fact remains......and regardless of the free ticket offers this year, it is a fact, the crowds as Quins are better than the crowds in the preceeding years as the Broncos.


I will say it again...name changes, stadium moves, better team performances are all a waste of time unless someone admits the main reason the club find themselves dancing this merry dance again is a total lack of marketing in any shape or form.

Please can we NOT have a new name beginning with H.

At least the match reports won't refer to us 'hapless' every week.

Lowly or lackadaisical or lacklustre or lacking or lost or or or LONDON

The only rationale behind a club changing its name would be for legal reasons.....

The only rationale behind a team changing it's shirt is at half time when its dirty.....

..................and in case you haven't noticed The Stoop is a proven sporting stadium and has no case to answer, a successful rugby league team in London is the missing link.

We could be called Hitlers Dream Thirteen and play in black shirts; if we were top of the league we'd have crowds..............................

A little convoluted, perhaps, but not far of the mark.

I would suggest that we could be top of the table after 3 rounds of the comp, having beaten one of the best teams in the comp the previous weekend and still only get 2,624 fans to the next home game. I might even suggest that after a 4/2 record after 6 games, with wins over Saint Helens and Leeds, the 2 dominant teams in recent years we would still only attract a crowd of 3,052 for the next home game.

Hang on...I don't have to suggest it......it happened.

A trip to wembley and 2 play-off games down the line and yet some believe that it's that simple......it's not!

Ok! missed out he word 'constantly', rather than the freak instance we found ourselves in this year.

Agree - you can polish a t**d but it is still a t**d.

The Stoop is not a great ground for atmosphere (unless it its over 3/4 full) due to the stands being quite decoupled from each other. Also the East Stand is quiet far from the action.

Therefor I'd like the club to introduce special areas for the more vociferous of London fans (i.e. not a "family" area)

Yeah the Stoop's a terrible ground. We should move to Barnet's ground post-haste, then everything would be fine.

"... =#FF0000introduce special areas for the more vociferous of London fans...".
You have been out of touch haven't you? Ask about Loud and Loyal.

....so let's leave one of the best Rugby Only stadiums in the country because about a half dozen of your mates have stopped coming to games. The issue here isn't the stands being de-coupled, the issue here is the 3/4 full and that has SFA to do with the ground, its location, the clubs name or the landlord. If you think that it does, then you are barking!


Did you think that up all on your own? Nope, because it's already been done.....kind of like having no union connection, not playing in a Union ground and not being called Harlequins.

Remind me again, how Über Popular were we before 2006?

The Stoop is nowhere near one of the best rugby stadiums in the country from an atmosphere point of view. It is much more of a casual "from a distance" stadiums - Good for food/drink/non-rugby actvities, but poor for out and out atmosphere. It always has been worse for this comparably to Brentford for example which is much closer to action. Of course some people prefer the more relaxed venue (akin to Wimbledon tennis) - I don't.

Also it is in an area that will never be interested en masse in RL, so it will always be an uphill struggle to get even 5k averages. This will be even more difficult now compared to 1997, with the rise in popularity of Quins RU since then

Because of course after spending 5 years there, we can all come to that conclusion.

WE'VE NOT BEEN THERE LONG ENOUGH TO MAKE THIS CALL, HOW MANY TIMES?!!!!

Where would you rather go? What's a better stadium that fulfills all our needs? Please, I'm all ears.

Like the name change it will happen in time, but only when the right area and venue is identified, we have got to be at least part owners for a long term future. All that is important now for 2012 is turning it around to have a winning team that will hopefully build the supporter base, interesting which way we will look at marketing.

As a Rugby League fan living in Australia, is it possible to watch all/any of the Harlequins/London's matches?

The "right" area, the "right" venue. Still haven't read a single suggestion that makes any more sense than our current home.

I spoke to a Millwall fan at the weekend. I told him about the notions on here about moving to a "working class" area and playing at the New Den. He thought it was hilarious. Like anyone with a brain does.

Channel 9 shows the featured SKY Sports UK games from the weekend on Monday night at around 2300. If Quins are a featured match they will be shown.

Quote ="someonehasmyname"Channel 9 shows the featured SKY Sports UK games from the weekend on Monday night at around 2300. If Quins are a featured match they will be shown.'" But this season we've been so poor that we've only featured 2 or 3 times. You can see which games are coming up on TV here: www.rugbyleagueontv.co.uk/ BTW, we won't be called Harlequins next season. Take a look about the end of this month to find out our new name.

Quote ="someonehasmyname"Channel 9 shows the featured SKY Sports UK games from the weekend on Monday night at around 2300. If Quins are a featured match they will be shown.'" But this season we've been so poor that we've only featured 2 or 3 times. You can see which games are coming up on TV here: www.rugbyleagueontv.co.uk/ BTW, we won't be called Harlequins next season. Take a look about the end of this month to find out our new name.

I think the same question asked in the Twickenham area would meet the same response, perhaps even stronger, those dammed floodlights for night games, less we forget!

It's not just the area, more important it is knowing we will be a tenant for life, which could change at any time, even at a whim!

Anyway as a loyal Hammer supporter no mentioning that team M or the other Premiership club based in North London! LOL

We have just got to accept to disagree Dave, you will never change your position whatever happens, in my case I thought it was a good move to take the name of our tenants but no longer and long term it is best to break all ties with them completely, which you will never agree about even if we do find the correct area and stadium one day of our own or as part owners.

Whatever the name next season the club is certainly signing up some talent for 2012.

In my opinion,it has to become succesful at the Stoop over the course of the next franchise if we are to have a longer term future. Without that it is doubtful we will get new investment or perhaps not get another franchise. So thoughts of other grounds are somewhat irrelevent.